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Old 05-29-2011, 07:42 PM   #41 (permalink)
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He was attempting to mount an offense and failing. You don't score a goal by missing the net.

You are pretty delusional if you think Machida was controlling and going for the finish in the first two rounds. He spent most of those rounds running away, not committing to his strikes, being cut off, and being pressed up against the cage. He can get awarded one of those rounds if you don't score aggression and hugging against the cage but by no means was he outclassing Page in the standup.
A goal would be the actual submission victory. Trying to shoot a goal more than the other team, makes the team who tries the winner 90% of the time. Because they are not just defending but actually trying! Which in a fight should score the same way as it does anywhere else.

Machida landed the much more cleaner striker and outsriked Rampage in those first two rounds. All Rampage had going for him was agression and octagon control.

Thats why a fight should be scored as a WHOLE! Leaves no doupt in anybody's mind that Machida was the far superior fighter that night.

Even if the first two rounds very close!

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Old 05-29-2011, 07:43 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Benavidez outclassed him on the ground. apart from a few armbar attempts he was just unable to do anything.

The guy will never be top dog again.
So then why did you post the thread if you already made up your mind?

He needs to find a balance between being a aggressive fighter and counter striking.

Before he lost he was a super aggressive fighter that overwhelmed fighters, now he's swung completely in the other direction and looks like a pure counter striker and IMO the style/gameplan W/E is not the most effective strategy for him.

I think he would do better if instead of jumping in to stand and banging or sitting back and countering he takes calculated risks but at some point he needs to put the pressure on fighters that's what he's good at, he needs to pull the trigger if he wants to win.
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A goal would be the actual submission victory. Trying to shoot a goal more than the other team, makes the team who tries the winner 90% of the time. Because they are not just defending but actually trying! Which in a fight should score the same way as it does anywhere else.

Machida landed the much more cleaner striker and outsriked Rampage in those first two rounds. All Rampage had going for him was agression and octagon control.

Thats why a fight should be scored as a WHOLE! Leaves no doupt in anybody's mind that Machida was the far superior fighter that night.

Even if the first two rounds very close!

Understand?
No it doesn't, taking bad low percentage shots only gains you victory through luck. The better team sets up their shots and takes less and scores at a better percentage. It is why most of the popular advanced metrics are based around efficiency. A game doesn't end the first time a goal is scored either.

I would say he landed better strikes in the first two in general but they were mostly leg kicks he wasn't committing to throwing and it wasn't by a large margin. The first two rounds are close either way. It is Machida's fault he lost that fight not the scoring system. Maybe he should have showed up to fight for more than one round.
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No it doesn't, taking bad low percentage shots only gains you victory through luck. The better team sets up their shots and takes less and scores at a better percentage. It is why most of the popular advanced metrics are based around efficiency. A game doesn't end the first time a goal is scored either.

I would say he landed better strikes in the first two in general but they were mostly leg kicks he wasn't committing to throwing and it wasn't by a large margin. The first two rounds are close either way. It is Machida's fault he lost that fight not the scoring system. Maybe he should have showed up to fight for more than one round.
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