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post #11 of 29 (permalink) Old 05-29-2011, 01:36 AM
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yeah he looks just like another punching bag in his last 2 fights and horrible cardio the guy needs a change
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post #12 of 29 (permalink) Old 05-29-2011, 01:49 AM
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Mir raped him big time. More power to Mir, although I was cheering for Roy.
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Anyone who thought Roy was going to win is simply horrible at judging match ups. If you went for Roy, take this as a sign to not bet.

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He didnt gas because of cardio, it was because he took repeated knees to the head, and it rocked him.
I think his problem is he might be heavy but there is no strength in that weight unless its sitting on you. Mir would be much stronger carrying 40 pounds more solid muscle, so Roy can't win a grappling match anymore.
Get down to LH roy and fight guys your own strength!
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this was a down&dirty grappling match for sure. i was a bit surprised at how fast Nelson gassed in this outing though. Mir's gastank looked like shit too, it was just not as noticable due to he fat mulletheaded mouth breather in there with him
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Haha I think his belly is cool, but when a fighter is talking about how he wants to fight for the title yet makes a showing like THAT against Mir of all people, I question how legit he is. I enjoy his fights because he can "hang" in the ring with all of these top level fighters despite his rotund appearance but if he wants to be taken seriously, a change needs to come

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It's not all that bad, he fractured Mir's jaw and hurt something else, maybe a rib I can't remember.

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IT wasn't a horrible fight. but I can recognize that Nelson needs to work on his cardio big time.

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I definitely agree he needs to get into better shape to be a contender. Its this simple:

Nelson and Mir both weighed in at 260. Yet probably about 30-40lbs of Nelson's 260 is fat. Meaning if he leaned out he'd have the approximate musculature of Randy Couture, Forrest Griffin or Anderson Silva's walking weight. He's a VERY bloated LHW fighting at HW by choice.

If Nelson had been a decently lean 240-250, there's no way Mir would have manhandled him like he did. But lets be realistic. At 5'11" with a 72in reach, he will never beat guys like JDS or Velasquez. He needs to make the move to LHW IMO. He has a lot of difficulty hanging with the high level HWs in the UFC.

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i want nelson to go to lhw and mir to cut to 240 pounds come fight night not 260

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