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05-29-2011, 01:39 PM
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Rough Sex and Banana Pudding
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Last Night showed us Cain may be dominant for a long time.
Watching the Mir/Nelson fight, I kept thinking to myself if these guys ever have to fight Cain, they're going to get destroyed.
Both guys were tired after 2 rounds, and Lesnar and Big Nog have already been finished violently, I'm thinking seriously that if Reem or someone from Strikeforce or even Junior doesn't have the cardio to last with Cain, or something he's going to be the Champion for a LOOOONG time, Cain didn't fight last night but anyone who saw that fight has to think now that Velasquez might just run through anyone at Heavyweight.
I highly doubt Mir wants that fight, he either needs to lose some muscle or he needs to do something completely different, Cain would have KILLED him and Nelson last night.
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05-29-2011, 01:43 PM
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I knew Cain Velasquez was special after Obrien fight.
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05-29-2011, 01:46 PM
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Depends on how long Bones decides to stay at 205.
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05-29-2011, 01:59 PM
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I think Frank Mir would give Cain a lot of problems. He is definitly capable of subbing Cain off of his back and also could probably do well standing. Although I think Cain is the better boxer and has faster, more powerful hands, Frank mixes things up really well with his kicks and knees etc. Cain has better wrestling and cardio but Frank is the naturally bigger man and I feel he could cause Cain problems and stop him getting the take down. I would bet on Frank in that fight, probably get 2:1 too.
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05-29-2011, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyRenegade
Depends on how long Bones decides to stay at 205.
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So you think if Bones decide to go HW now, he would cause problems for Cain?............................... really..
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05-29-2011, 02:05 PM
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Depends. If he were to fight JDS, it's very possible that he'd get finished in the 1st. Same with Carwin. Anything can happen at heavyweight.
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05-29-2011, 02:07 PM
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Mir's gas tank looked pretty bad last night. Maybe he didn't train that hard for his fight because he doesn't take Roy that seriously? Or it could of been that Roy is a hard M Fer to knock out. Even though frank was tired he did take him down at will and punish him standing. If he wants a chance against Cain he'll have to work a lot harder on his gas tank because if it turns into a 'grind-it-out' match. He'll get owned.
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05-29-2011, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyRenegade
Depends on how long Bones decides to stay at 205.
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Cain would wreck him. Better striking, plus Bones won't be able to rag doll him like he does his other opponents.
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05-29-2011, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Terror Kovenant
Cain would wreck him. Better striking, plus Bones won't be able to rag doll him like he does his other opponents.
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And Bones wouldn't be able to rag-doll vera... or bader bc he was a wrestler... or shogun
hmmm, seeing a pattern here
i respect Cain's abilities... but i wouldnt write jones off so quickly
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05-29-2011, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by headxsmasher
Mir's gas tank looked pretty bad last night. Maybe he didn't train that hard for his fight because he doesn't take Roy that seriously? Or it could of been that Roy is a hard M Fer to knock out. Even though frank was tired he did take him down at will and punish him standing. If he wants a chance against Cain he'll have to work a lot harder on his gas tank because if it turns into a 'grind-it-out' match. He'll get owned.
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Any guy that big will gas fighting at such a high pace. Mir presents problems for Cain his striking has less openings in it and he is dangerous off his back. He also never recovers once he gets hurt and Cain hits really hard and there is a very clear cardio and speed advantage for Cain.
JDS and Overeem are the only HWs I would favor over Cain and I would expect Cain to dominate most of the rest of the division.
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Cain would wreck him. Better striking, plus Bones won't be able to rag doll him like he does his other opponents.
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Bones is 220-225 right now if he were a heavyweight and put on 25 pounds of muscle I would put my money on him dominating the grappling.
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