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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-01-2011, 03:13 PM Thread Starter
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Paulo Filho has a formula to beat Jon Jones!

ďThe way to defeat Jon Jones is simpler than it seems. Heís at an average distance for him, but the opponent has to play inside or completely outside. His reach is 84.5 inches; thatís 84.5 inches the opponent has to climb to hit him. I think the ideal fighter to face him has to be a guy who knows how to get a heel hook, an armbar, a guy who has a good jiu-jitsu. Striking with him is complicated because heís a very tall guy, so itís very difficult to approach him. He puts his hand on the opponentís head, like Anderson Silva, and keeps the opponent away from him. Taking him down is very difficult, too, because heís an excellent wrestler. Heís a guy whoís innovating and bringing MMA to another level. He lands elbows that did not previously exist and is truly revolutionary. I think the formula for defeating him is to shorten the distance, pull guard and work the attacks there, because Iím sure heíll make a mistake. I think anyone who has the qualities Iíve spoken about can beat him, but I think they have to be from the old school in jiu-jitsu. The guy also has to have heart because getting in an out the entire fight with Jon Jones will be very difficult. He has to close, pull, climb and try to catch something. Looking at Jonesí wingspan, the pace of his fights, the level heís at and the way he has defeated his opponents, thatís the only way I can see it happening.Ē
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post #2 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-01-2011, 03:26 PM
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Tell that to Hamill, Vera, and Matyushenko.
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I don't know, I still say the best bet would be to pull a Tonya Harding during the walkouts.
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post #4 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-01-2011, 03:31 PM
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so you need elite, old school jitz, an iron will... a wing and a prayer!
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post #5 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-01-2011, 03:44 PM
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That is probably the exact opposite of what you need to do to defeat Jones. Having Jones on top of you is not good for anyone, I don't care how good your bjj is, the pain and damage Jones inflicts from the top will be too much for the bjj guy who will likely be trying to defend more than submit the guy. One way to beat jones is to outwrestle him and get him on his back, most wrestlers aren't that good off their backs and we haven't really seen what Jones can do there either so it's a pretty safe bet. Another way is to strike with him, he's not exactly the most technical fight, and he doesn't have much punching power, what you have to watch out for is his knees, and elbows. This is where someone like Lyoto or Rampage comes in, guys who can get inside and deliver clean/powerful shots and put the pressure on Jones.
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so you need elite, old school jitz, an iron will... a wing and a prayer!
I should of just read this instead of the whole OP...
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Jones is one of the few people to have great GnP from inside the guard. Thus pulling guard does not seem like a great idea to me.
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post #8 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-01-2011, 04:07 PM
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in order to beat JBJ, you need an iron jaw, and strong in the clinch. Rampage fits that mold, not to mention he has KO power.
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post #9 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-01-2011, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by prolyfic View Post

Tell that to Hamill, Vera, and Matyushenko.
If you were to pull guard, you'd need to pull straight into rubber guard - you can't give that guy ANY space at all on the ground - and with his long long arms, it's definitely possible.

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A brazilian thinking jiu-jitsu is what you need. Something's fishy here!

But I think he's right about it actually. He's just forgetting that you need to have an iron chin and good defensive stand up as well. This is also why I think Machida has a lot better chance to beat Jonny Bones than most other fighters have. I think Shogun has a decent shot (despite the beatdown he took).

Why Shogun? Because he's a great grappler with decent stand up. He just likes to fight with his MT instead of his brain when he fights, and if he really had a good game plan he could be able to submit him. The reason Jonny Bones made it look so easy to beat Shogun is that he first of all landed a big knee in the beginning of the fight. Other reasons are that Shogun has become a up'n'down fighter with bad knees and bad luck concerning coaching and game planning.

I don't think Shogun will do it, he still has that chute boxe pride in him. I don't think he will play the elusive and defensive stand up game Machida does. If he did however fall away from that, he could very well shock the world. He has the raw skill to do it. He just needs a great game planner to make it happen.

I still think he has a better shot than most are giving him after their last fight.
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