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Old 06-08-2011, 11:06 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I would say that personally insulting someone on these forums because you don't agree with their opinion is very childish. Limba is an established poster on this board who has strong opinions and stands behind them.

You don't have to agree with him and if you don't its encouraged to debate and bring up your own points to counter his opinions. I'm sure a lot of other posters on here will agree that personal attacks are beyond the boundaries of what is acceptable and shouldn't be tolerated.
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Old 06-08-2011, 11:06 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I enjoy fighters to come in and fight whether its on the ground or in the stand up. Being a blanket is not fighting in my book thats stalling.

I can't be a fan of guy who does it. Whether the rules are bad or not it's up to you to exploit them or be a man and try to finish the fight.
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Old 06-08-2011, 11:10 AM   #23 (permalink)
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First off, edited the post title. Knock that shit off, seriously.

Second, interesting to know that Guida doesn't cut weight at all... He looks much bigger than Frankie :\
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Old 06-08-2011, 11:16 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I've never personally had to deal with weight cutting so I don't know a lot about it. I'm willing to bet though that everyone's body reacts differently to the cut. I'm sure some people have no ill effects of the weight cut while others go though absolute hell and aren't 100% when fight time comes around.

It may be more of a factor with the big guys then the small guys but if it was up to me I'd like to come into a fight feeling and performing at 100% rather than cutting and performing at 75% just to be a little bit bigger then my opponent.
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Old 06-08-2011, 11:31 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I would say that personally insulting someone on these forums because you don't agree with their opinion is very childish. Limba is an established poster on this board who has strong opinions and stands behind them.

You don't have to agree with him and if you don't its encouraged to debate and bring up your own points to counter his opinions. I'm sure a lot of other posters on here will agree that personal attacks are beyond the boundaries of what is acceptable and shouldn't be tolerated.
Nice post.

I see you're not a Guida fan and you tried backing your opinion why.

I can respect that.

Even though i don't neccessarilly agree with that.

Like i've said: i'm not a big Guida fan, but i don't know why he gets s*it on all of a sudden, for winning a fight using the current rules against one of the biggest prospects in all of MMA.

If someone expected Guida to keep the fight standing with Pettis, that someone doesn't know much about MMA.
If someone expected Guida to have a BJJ war with Pettis, that someone was also very wrong.

What is Guida's biggest strength?! His wrestling!
WHat is Pettis' biggest weakness?! His wrestling!

===> combine these two facts and you get the idea why Guida fought the way he did, using the current rules.

SOme people just don't understand his performance, because they were used to seeing him being that wreckless fighter, always pushing forward, trying to start a war, f*ck the defense ---> just go out there and make it a war.

That's what a fighter does when he encounters someone who is more skilled/gifted/talented than he is.

That's what happened to Guida against Florian, Huerta, Sanchez or Griffin.

Maybe Guida said: enough with that. Maybe he thought he deserves better than this.

He needed discipline and a solid game plame to go along with his skill set and natural abillities.

And that's what he got when becoming a member of Greg Jackson's team.

He won 3 fights by stoppage, even after becoming a Jackson fighter, but his opponents weren't on Pettis' level.
That's why he had to apply a different strategy for this fight. One that was meant to shut Pettis down where he posed the biggest danger for Guida: on the feet and on the ground, avoiding submissions.
He did a great job of that and he won the fight.

For once, Guida put his own interests above others' - winning first, excitement second - and he gets a lot of hate for that.

Imagine this: Guida going out there, wreckless - like in the Sanchez fight - and getting KO'd or subbed early.

How stupid would he have looked afterwards?! Knowing you can beat the other fighter using your strength, instead losing the fight, because you wanted to put on a show...?!?!
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First off, edited the post title. Knock that shit off, seriously.

Second, interesting to know that Guida doesn't cut weight at all... He looks much bigger than Frankie :\
Good I thought I was the only one who though the title inappropriate, but last time I said something like that I was too sensitive. But a thread started like that is a Troll
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Old 06-08-2011, 12:14 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Nice post.

I see you're not a Guida fan and you tried backing your opinion why.

I can respect that.

Even though i don't neccessarilly agree with that.

Like i've said: i'm not a big Guida fan, but i don't know why he gets s*it on all of a sudden, for winning a fight using the current rules against one of the biggest prospects in all of MMA.

If someone expected Guida to keep the fight standing with Pettis, that someone doesn't know much about MMA.
If someone expected Guida to have a BJJ war with Pettis, that someone was also very wrong.

What is Guida's biggest strength?! His wrestling!
WHat is Pettis' biggest weakness?! His wrestling!

===> combine these two facts and you get the idea why Guida fought the way he did, using the current rules.

SOme people just don't understand his performance, because they were used to seeing him being that wreckles fighter, always pushing forward, trying to start a war, f*ck the defense ---> just go out there and make it a war.

That's what a fighter does when he encounters someone who is more skilled/gifted/talented than he is.

That's what happened to Guida against Florian, Huerta, Sanchez or Griffin.

Maybe Guida said: enough with that. Maybe he thought deserves better than this.

He needed discipline and a solid game plame to go along with his skill set and natural abillities.

And that's what he got when becoming a member of Greg Jackson's team.

He won 3 fights by stoppage, even after becoming a Jackson fighter, but his opponents weren't on Pettis' level.
That's why he had to apply a different strategy for this fight. One that was meant to shut Pettis down where he posed the biggest danger for Guida: on the feet and on the ground, avoiding submissions.
He did a great job of that and he won the fight.

For once, Guida put his own interests above others' - winning first, excitement second - and he gets a lot of hate for that.

Imagine this: Guida going out there, wreckless - like in the Sanchez fight - and getting KO'd or subbed early.

How stupid would he have looked afterwards?! Knowing you can beat the other fighter using your strength, instead losing the fight, because you wanted to put on a show...?!?!
+Rep to you my man! I have a quote in my sig that describes Guida vs. Pettis perfectly!

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That is what Clay Guida was doing. He was playing a game of physical chess. If he was stupid about it he would have lost hard.

Look what happened to Sean Sherk when he tried to box with BJ Penn. Sherk's biggest strength was his wrestling and quite arguably it was BJ's biggest weakness (as shown in the first GSP fight). Because he wanted to prove to the public at large that he wasn't "boring" he played right into BJ's hand! It cost him the LW title because he pulled that shit!
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Strangely I thought he lost to all the guys that he mentioned had a tricky guard.

Can't be mad at him though, it's not like he's being an ass about it.
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