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Old 06-10-2011, 12:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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If Bj went for the the takedown against Edgar...

Do you think he could have one the fight?? I mean Bj's Top game BJJ is off the charts! Why does he rarely execute takedowns?!!!!
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I thought he won the first fight anyways. Had he mixed it up he would of secured the victory for sure.

The second fight, no. He DID take Edgar down in the second fight and couldn't keep him down. BJ couldn't get anything off in that fight, and I don't think he could of beaten Edgar whatever he tried, he looked wrong.

In a 3rd fight, the BJ that fought Fitch would destroy Edgar. That's my (slightly biased I admit) opinion.
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Old 06-10-2011, 12:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Penn looked good in 2nd fight, Edgar is just really really good. That guy improves soooo much in between fights.

Penn is a huge front runner and once Edgar manhandled him he kinda gave up til the fifth when he really went for the TD and got it, but Edgar is really really good.
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Old 06-10-2011, 03:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I had Edgar in 1 by a slight margin (Machida/Shogun 1 slight). In 2 Edgar dominated Penn. He outclassed him in every way. I actually fell asleep watching that one a second time with a buddy who'd missed the live show because I already knew there weren't going to be any surprises.

The 170lb Penn who fought Fitch looked MUCH better than the 155er that fought Edgar. I don't know if the change in weight had anything do with his differing performances, but if he could maintain that level of aggression (and control his cardio) that Penn would be a much bigger danger to Edgar than Maynard, or Jim Miller.

But I still believe Edgar would win in the end. He's overcome some damn serious adversity in the cage and has tremendous recovery time, and underrated wrestling and JJ.
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Old 06-10-2011, 04:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I dunno. BJ is my favorite fighter of all time but sometimes you just meet a dude during your journey that's got your number. I think Frankie just has BJ's number.
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As much as I love BJ, I don't think he'll ever beat Edgar, regardless of what game plan he uses, the second fight with Edgar had me on the verge of tears, it was hard to watch a true warrior go out like that.
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I also thought that BJ took the first fight. I wasn't overly impressed with what Edgar had done the whole fight and felt he was far less effective than BJ.

The second fight you could tell that BJ was going to lose when he was walking to the octagon. He didn't have that look in his face that he was pissed off or intense. He is one of those guys that needs it.

I can sympathize with BJ wanting to train with his family, near his friends, in his comfort zone. But I really think that's been a negative influence in his career as well. When he doesn't come into a fight pissed off and super motivated he really doesn't look very good. He needs to put himself out of his comfort zone for the whole camp and only worry about the fight. If he comes in there with that mentality he walks in pissed off and amped up and he comes out to wreck some shit. Think of the Diego fight, think of the Sherk fight just from recent memory. He came out and looked like he wanted to mess someone up and he was super aggressive and was relentless in going for the kill.

He didn't have this in the 2nd fight. He had a couple moments where he was aggressive, even got the takedown but once Frankie got up he got all pissy and passive.
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The second fight you could tell that BJ was going to lose when he was walking to the octagon. He didn't have that look in his face that he was pissed off or intense. He is one of those guys that needs it.

Agreed. I've never seen BJ with such little intensity. He looked so...defeated, even before the fight began.
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i would guess its because BJ seems to tire ridiculously fast when he's grappling... standing up he would be able to go the five rounds. even then he was still gassing while edgar was just as quick or maybe a hair slower
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i would guess its because BJ seems to tire ridiculously fast when he's grappling... standing up he would be able to go the five rounds. even then he was still gassing while edgar was just as quick or maybe a hair slower
After the GSP fight he really showed us he can have cardio, looked good in the kenflo fight and I didn't think cardio was the issue in ether Edgar fight.

P.S. I do think we'll see him fatigue noticeable more at WW but that's just a hunch.
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