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post #11 of 78 (permalink) Old 06-17-2011, 09:18 AM
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Okami got embarrassed in the last fight and he will get embarrassed again.

His defensive wrestling is much better than his offensive wrestling. It isn't good enough to be a decent wrestler with good sub defense to beat Andy.

Okami is far too tentative in his fighting style, he isn't going to be shooting in straight away like Sonnen. I think he'll allow Silva to find his rhythm and get picked apart.

He does have a chance, but I think it's quite a small one. His offensive wrestling isn't quite good enough and he isn't aggressive enough to really put Andy in trouble.
You don't have to be Chael Sonnen to do that to Silva. You can take him down everywhere, especially in the clinch too.
Okami is a monster in the clinch and if Chael's Boxing is good enough to close the distance.. Yushin can as well.
He also has a great chin and can take some shots just like Chael.

Also he is not really that slow either.
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This fight will show if Silva has patched up the holes he had in his game in the Sonnen fight.
Those holes have been around before the Sonnen fight, they were just highlighted there. Lutter took Silva down and had him mounted briefly. Henderson had him down pretty much all of round 1 of their fight and Hendo clearly won that round. Silva's tdd has never been elite, but he is effective off his back or hurts people standing so their td's are slower and easier to avoid.

Okami has a decent chance here of doing what Sonnen did for the whole fight and what Hendo did for a round. Okami is a little slow standing so I think Silva will hurt him standing like he did Henderson and win the fight from there but Okami has a better chance than most.
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You don't have to be Chael Sonnen to do that to Silva. You can take him down everywhere, especially in the clinch too.
Okami is a monster in the clinch and if Chael's Boxing is good enough to close the distance.. Yushin can as well.
He also has a great chin and can take some shots just like Chael.

Also he is not really that slow either.
Chael's stand up is under rated. He beat Okami with ease on the feet when they fought.

He got KO'd by an up kick from the guard position by Andy years ago. His chin isn't that great.

Andy can make the greatest of chins look weak.

I just don't think his offensive wrestling is good enough nor is he aggressive enough to beat Silva. We'll see though.
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Okami got embarrassed in the last fight and he will get embarrassed again.

His defensive wrestling is much better than his offensive wrestling. It isn't good enough to be a decent wrestler with good sub defense to beat Andy.

Okami is far too tentative in his fighting style, he isn't going to be shooting in straight away like Sonnen. I think he'll allow Silva to find his rhythm and get picked apart.

He does have a chance, but I think it's quite a small one. His offensive wrestling isn't quite good enough and he isn't aggressive enough to really put Andy in trouble.

How did he get embarrassed ? he won.

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How did he get embarrassed ? he won.
He won through DQ. The end result isn't indicative of the fight as a whole though. Look at JBJ vs Hamill, I doubt anyone would argue against JBJ embarrassing Hamill, but Hamill won.
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I have read some articles and it seems like Silva is not a fan of the way he lost to Okami back in the day. So I would bet big that he is going to come out in this fight to make a statement again and get a devastating KO rather quickly.

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He won through DQ. The end result isn't indicative of the fight as a whole though. Look at JBJ vs Hamill, I doubt anyone would argue against JBJ embarrassing Hamill, but Hamill won.
Well i agree that it was a crap way to win , he was infact on top at that point and was illegally hit as we all know not his fault also id like to add that it was still round one plenty of time and Silva cheated to end the fight early.

JBJ fight was a different scenario , Hammil was in huge trouble then was hit and saved , Okami wasnt in huge trouble and was in guard.

but the fact is Hammil and Okami won and rightly so but in two completely different contexts.

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Myabe you are right, I'll have to go back and re-watch their first fight, saw it years ago so my memory is a little off. I know I definitely had AS winning until the point of the DQ, but I not sure how dominating he actually was.
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Myabe you are right, I'll have to go back and re-watch their first fight, saw it years ago so my memory is a little off. I know I definitely had AS winning until the point of the DQ, but I not sure how dominating he actually was.
He was defo winning but he was on his back and Yushin on top in round one when he hit with the upkick.

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Okami was getting tooled in the first fight. He shot about 6 times and got stuffed with ease every time. The 1 time he got Anderson down, Anderson had half stuffed the takedown and then went with it because he was close to securing a triangle. I am one of the few who truely believe he was injured before the Sonnen fight and that his TDD is better than that fight showed and i think we'll see that against Okami!

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