Okami plans om "smashing" Silva - Page 3 - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
UFC The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is a U.S.-based mixed martial arts organization, recognized as the largest MMA promotion in the world. The UFC is headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada and is owned and operated by Zuffa, LLC. This promotion is responsible for solidifying the sport's postion in the history-books. UFC is currently undergoing a remarkable surge in popularity, along with greater mainstream media coverage. UFC programming can now be seen on FOX, FX, and FUEL TV in the United States, as well as in 35 other countries worldwide.

Reply

Old 06-17-2011, 12:10 PM   #21 (permalink)
Lightweight
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,651
ACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level now
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mckeever View Post
Chael's stand up is under rated. He beat Okami with ease on the feet when they fought.

He got KO'd by an up kick from the guard position by Andy years ago. His chin isn't that great.

Andy can make the greatest of chins look weak.

I just don't think his offensive wrestling is good enough nor is he aggressive enough to beat Silva. We'll see though.
agreed 100%, there isnt a certain formula to beat AS, there are many factors in a fight, ability to stick to a gameplan, heart, agressivnes

sonnen had a perfect fight with a perfect style to beat andy, but couldnt do it, okami has a decent chance with his style, if it was a 3 round fight his chances would be much better

but in the end if you cant finish andy and only hope to get UD and survive for 25 mins you're insane, no man can survive 25 mins with anderson, yes chael survived 23:30 mins...doesnt matter, he still got finished

okami is WAY too slow for anderson, his victory over nate wasnt impressive at all, okami will let anderson find his rythem because thats simply the way he fights and when anderson finds his rythem okami is going down
ACTAFOOL is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 06-17-2011, 12:31 PM   #22 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,811
BobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty corner
Quote:
Originally Posted by ACTAFOOL View Post
agreed 100%, there isnt a certain formula to beat AS, there are many factors in a fight, ability to stick to a gameplan, heart, agressivnes

sonnen had a perfect fight with a perfect style to beat andy, but couldnt do it, okami has a decent chance with his style, if it was a 3 round fight his chances would be much better

but in the end if you cant finish andy and only hope to get UD and survive for 25 mins you're insane, no man can survive 25 mins with anderson, yes chael survived 23:30 mins...doesnt matter, he still got finished

okami is WAY too slow for anderson, his victory over nate wasnt impressive at all, okami will let anderson find his rythem because thats simply the way he fights and when anderson finds his rythem okami is going down
Okami had no marks on his face after he tooled Nate.

Sonnen looked like a mess after that fight.


IF Chale can surive 23.30 minutes then Okami can as well. Okami is probably even more endurable then Chael.

Anderson has huge weaknessess in his game and guys like Okami and Cheal can expose those holes.

Hell I am farily sure Paul-Harris would defeat Silva in the first Round most likely.

And I am one of the biggest Silva Fans out there.
BobbyCooper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2011, 01:04 PM   #23 (permalink)
Lightweight
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,651
ACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level now
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyCooper View Post
Okami had no marks on his face after he tooled Nate.

Sonnen looked like a mess after that fight.


IF Chale can surive 23.30 minutes then Okami can as well. Okami is probably even more endurable then Chael.

Anderson has huge weaknessess in his game and guys like Okami and Cheal can expose those holes.

Hell I am farily sure Paul-Harris would defeat Silva in the first Round most likely.

And I am one of the biggest Silva Fans out there.
palhares couldnt even get a title shot, i love the guy be lol he would never beat anderson, way too 1 dimensional, would be maia all over again

anyway, i dont see why sonnens face matters, sonnen always looks like he got hit by a train after his fights, he dominated nate for 3 full rounds, okami didnt do shit against nate

and again, just because sonnen lasted for almost 25 mins okami can as well? why? theres no logic in that, sonnen is a better wrestler than okami, a MUCH better wrestler and he has a different style

just because okami is also a wrestler doesnt mean he is like chael, hes very different, different style of wrestling, a lot slower, more patient and he doesnt risk getting hit in the face and go balls out just to get a TD

okami is a 100% different fighter, and silva will remind every1 how much of impact his bruised/fractured rib made during the sonnen fight

anderson actually has nice scrambles and is very active from guard, i dont see him just lying down like he did against chael but lets wait until fight night for that to happen

still at the end of the day okami hasnt shown any dominance to any other fighter that would suggest he can hold andy down and do what chael did

im not saying okami cant take AS down, of course he can, but not the way chael did for 5 rounds and as fast as he did...+ a healthy silva fighting in front of his ppl, finally ppl wont be booing him...this fight will have no resemblence to sonnen vs AS IMO
ACTAFOOL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2011, 01:05 PM   #24 (permalink)
You're not terribly important to me
 
UFC_OWNS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sell me this pen
Posts: 14,451
Blog Entries: 1
UFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF Material
the biggest factor is chael working with yushin, he uses the same plan and training chael shows him then he can win, but im not sure yushin has the ability still to win even with chaels and matt lindlands help
__________________

Jim Norton
Nick Dipaolo
Dave Attell
Dave Chappelle
Bill Burr
Joey Diaz
Colin Quinn
Bob Kelly
Rich Vos
Patrice O'Neal
Louis CK


UFC_OWNS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2011, 01:09 PM   #25 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,811
BobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty corner
Quote:
Originally Posted by ACTAFOOL View Post
palhares couldnt even get a title shot, i love the guy be lol he would never beat anderson, way too 1 dimensional, would be maia all over again

anyway, i dont see why sonnens face matters, sonnen always looks like he got hit by a train after his fights, he dominated nate for 3 full rounds, okami didnt do shit against nate

and again, just because sonnen lasted for almost 25 mins okami can as well? why? theres no logic in that, sonnen is a better wrestler than okami, a MUCH better wrestler and he has a different style

just because okami is also a wrestler doesnt mean he is like chael, hes very different, different style of wrestling, a lot slower, more patient and he doesnt risk getting hit in the face and go balls out just to get a TD

okami is a 100% different fighter, and silva will remind every1 how much of impact his bruised/fractured rib made during the sonnen fight

anderson actually has nice scrambles and is very active from guard, i dont see him just lying down like he did against chael but lets wait until fight night for that to happen

still at the end of the day okami hasnt shown any dominance to any other fighter that would suggest he can hold andy down and do what chael did

im not saying okami cant take AS down, of course he can, but not the way chael did for 5 rounds and as fast as he did...+ a healthy silva fighting in front of his ppl, finally ppl wont be booing him...this fight will have no resemblence to sonnen vs AS IMO
Well Okami is the much better BJJ player. Means he won't get subbed with a silly triangle like Chael right?

Okami is much better in the clinch than Sonnen. Yes they are different fighters, but both are excellent on the ground and Yushin is much, much better there because of his great BJJ game.

Okami is not slow and has some great Takedowns.
BobbyCooper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2011, 01:26 PM   #26 (permalink)
Lightweight
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,651
ACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level nowACTAFOOL is on another level now
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyCooper View Post
Well Okami is the much better BJJ player. Means he won't get subbed with a silly triangle like Chael right?

Okami is much better in the clinch than Sonnen. Yes they are different fighters, but both are excellent on the ground and Yushin is much, much better there because of his great BJJ game.

Okami is not slow and has some great Takedowns.
sub defense is great but i dont bank on that meaning okami wont get subbed, any1 can get subbed against a bjj black belt, you can have the best sub defense in the world but still get caught, now anderson isnt a bjj wizard but he is excellent in the guard, i wont be betting on him subbing okami though

i just think okami is too patient, he will give silva too much time to catch him standing, guess we'll just have to wait and see
ACTAFOOL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2011, 01:32 PM   #27 (permalink)
Super Ultra Great Delicious Wonderful
 
osmium's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 6,517
osmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By All
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyCooper View Post
Well Okami is the much better BJJ player. Means he won't get subbed with a silly triangle like Chael right?

Okami is much better in the clinch than Sonnen. Yes they are different fighters, but both are excellent on the ground and Yushin is much, much better there because of his great BJJ game.

Okami is not slow and has some great Takedowns.
Anderson Silva subbed Dan Henderson and Travis Lutter... I really don't think being better than Chael in the clinch matters either seeing as how he is fighting Anderson Silva and really doesn't want to be there for too long and isn't fast enough to get it very often anyways.


The Lutter sub wasn't because he was gassed either before someone says some garbage like that it was brilliant technique the way he put it on. Anderson Silva sets up subs with strikes off his back better than anyone in MMA.

As far as whether Anderons fixed what was wrong in the Chael fight I am pretty sure his injury healed and his opponent isn't juiced to the gills this time around.

Okami really doesn't have a great shot and his striking is alright but he *****foots around with it way too much which cost him the fight with Rich and would have with Nate but Nate does the same thing.

This should be an easy win for Anderson which isn't an indictment on Okami who has earned this title shot multiple times now Anderson is the GOAT.
osmium is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2011, 01:35 PM   #28 (permalink)
of Nazareth
 
Soojooko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: The Moon
Posts: 8,260
Soojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF Material
Is it wise using the Sonnen fight as some kind of gauge to draw conclusions from? Silva had a rub injury for most of the fight. Nobody knows how it affected him, if at all. It's a ropey theory to discount the injury completely and assume Sonnen would dominate in the same way if they fought again. Of course, he may well. But I wouldn't bet on it.
Soojooko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2011, 01:38 PM   #29 (permalink)
You're not terribly important to me
 
UFC_OWNS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sell me this pen
Posts: 14,451
Blog Entries: 1
UFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF MaterialUFC_OWNS Is Future HOF Material
i would. sonnen is fantastic and newton and hendo have also outgrappled silva before
__________________

Jim Norton
Nick Dipaolo
Dave Attell
Dave Chappelle
Bill Burr
Joey Diaz
Colin Quinn
Bob Kelly
Rich Vos
Patrice O'Neal
Louis CK


UFC_OWNS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2011, 01:41 PM   #30 (permalink)
of Nazareth
 
Soojooko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: The Moon
Posts: 8,260
Soojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF Material
Quote:
Originally Posted by UFC_OWNS View Post
i would. sonnen is fantastic and newton and hendo have also outgrappled silva before
Sorry, but dont bring all previous examples to play. They all tried to out grapple him, and lost. It's all very well saying his weakness is grappling, when the reality is he's beaten every wrestler he's faced. Good fooking wrestlers too.

He. Beat. Them. All. Real. Good.
Soojooko is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
Powered by vBulletin Copyright 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios