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Old 06-22-2011, 08:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Vancouver Riots Blamed on UFC, NHL By School Board Chair

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Media and society played a role in building up the atmosphere that contributed to last week’s riot, according to Vancouver School Board chair Patti Bacchus.

Bacchus has been tweeting about the violent fallout from the Stanley Cup Final for several days. She has been highly critical of demonizing the vandals and for suggestions they be jailed.

Bacchus’ tweets included:

—Oh critical thought & analysis—why have you forsaken us? Quality of post-riot discourse by media and politicians most embarrassing of all

—Important to reflect on why so many young men feel so apparently alienated and angry in our society

—Talking tough on law and order and locking up perps not the authentic solution to deeper societal problems.

The Vision Vancouver trustee argues restorative justice is the best way to deal with rioters, particularly first-time offenders.

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“From the perspective as a parent and trustee, [the reaction has been] shocking to me because the justice system doesn’t jail young people who do one stupid thing as a first-time offence, that have never been in trouble before, particularly under extremely unusual circumstances that we don’t fully understand,” she told the Courier. “We have a justice system that acknowledges that minors don’t have the full brain development even to be fully responsible for their actions. The fact that we didn’t see 50-year-old women rioting tells me there’s something physiological and biological going on that makes these young men and teenage boys particularly vulnerable to a situation of mob hysteria.”
Bacchus said a teen’s impulse control isn’t fully developed and that, and other factors, should be explored in the wake of the riot. She added the hype was cranked up in the days before the final with sentiments such as “We’re all Canucks.”

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“The painted faces and hockey itself—it’s aggressive, they celebrate the brawling on ice, it’s winning, it’s dominance. If kids are all watching a UFC game and cheering someone for bloodying up someone else’s face, how big a leap is that from cheering on someone smashing a window?It’s very mixed messages we’re sending to young people who are still in a stage of developing their impulse control and moral development.”
Windermere secondary uses restorative justice to deal with disputes, violence, bullying and vandalism. It’s a voluntary process where victims and perpetrators meet to discuss the crime and its effects, and to determine a consequence.

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“Part of the purpose of restorative justice is to give the young person a chance to take responsibility and set it right and go away with feeling they’re more of a man or woman for the process—it’s not shaming, it’s not humiliating,” Bacchus said. “It’s acknowledging people make mistakes and part of doing the right thing is learning from your mistakes.”
Associate superintendent Jordan Tinney said the district hasn’t received confirmation of Vancouver students being involved.

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“[But] we offered [the police] the services of any of our secondary school administrators to view any of the photos or video images of anyone involved in the riot to provide our support,” Tinney said, noting secondary schools have police liaison officers, so there may be conversations at the school level.
Vancouver police aren’t revealing if Vancouver students have been implicated due to privacy laws.
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Old 06-22-2011, 08:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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He has a bit of a point but there is nothing to be done about college-aged students acting like idiots.

A lot of them are morons who act impulsively.
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i read this hours ago the school deputy or whatever sounds cunty, and wacth a UFC game? you dumb hooker shut up before you say dumb shit
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He has a bit of a point but there is nothing to be done about college-aged students acting like idiots.

A lot of them are morons who act impulsively.
I get what you're saying.
But it must piss you off when someone opens their mouth without using their brain.

1. why haven't we seen any riots after the UFC 115 event in Vancouver?!

2. why haven't we seen any riots after other UFC event in Canada - Toronto or Montreal?!

3. there have been more than 170 UFC events since the UFC started. How many of them have been followed by riots?!

ZERO!!!


Brent Brookhouse (Bloody Elbow) said it best:

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And really, it all makes sense.

In 1994, after losing game seven of the Stanley Cup finals to the New York Rangers, Vancouver fans rioted. This, mere months after UFC 2. The angry mob was, of course, not driven by a combination of angry Canucks fans and idiots looking to cause trouble. They were fueled with the anger of 1,000 Pat Smiths, ready to lapel choke the city after yet another Royce Gracie tournament win.


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It didn't seem ignorant or stupid to me, I guess I'm a dummy too. What's the "smart" answer? boys will be boys??

advice worth heeding.
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"Rather than say something stupid, better take a s*it in your mouth and shut up"
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It didn't seem ignorant or stupid to me, I guess I'm a dummy too. What's the "smart" answer? boys will be boys??



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i read this hours ago the school deputy or whatever sounds cunty, and wacth a UFC game? you dumb hooker shut up before you say dumb shit
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I really hate when people blame things on what they think influences them.(bviously mentally stable people are not who I am about to talk about because if something is wrong with you then the norm doesnt apply)

Truth is this after a certain age maybe 6 to 7 a child knows what consequences are, some younger even fewer older. We are talking about teenagers and older being influenced by something THEY choose to be influenced by. NOONE does anything they dont want to do PERIOD!
They blame cartoons, but no one has ever walked off a cliff...BECAUSE THEY WOULD DIE! They blame music, but no one OD's on drugs....CAUSE THAT WOULD SUCK FOR THEM! They blame video games, but...do I really even need to go there.

People do what they want to do and are influenced by things they already have an interest in. If the UFC did anything it was let people know that there is an outlet for your frustration in which you can be on TV and get paid.
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I get what you're saying.
But it must piss you off when someone opens their mouth without using their brain.

1. why haven't we seen any riots after the UFC 115 event in Vancouver?!

2. why haven't we seen any riots after other UFC event in Canada - Toronto or Montreal?!

3. there have been more than 170 UFC events since the UFC started. How many of them have been followed by riots?!

ZERO!!!


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There's a saying in romanian:

"Rather than say something stupid, better take a s*it in your mouth and shut up"
Exactly, well put. I live near Toronto, in Canada and I'll share some thoughts.

1) Similar things transpired at the G20/G8 Summit last year where idiotic protesters burned buildings, looted and torched Police cars.

2) Riots would have happened regardless if Vancouver won/lost the Stanley Cup Final. Idiots are idiots.

It's not a reflection of our whole country and no, UFC did not have anything to do with it.

Most of the rioters are either young, in school, no jobs and mad at the world.

It just blows my mind. This is what my hard earned and taken tax dollars go to, keeping these ***holes behind bars after they terrorize our cities.

Sorry for the rant.... arrgh
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you know now that i think of it they are completely right, and when vancouver did the exact same when they lost the 1994 stanley cup final that was ufc's fault too!

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