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post #11 of 26 (permalink) Old 06-28-2011, 01:10 PM
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irrelevant, Wiman will win. When Siver loses he can fight Lauzon.

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irrelevant, Wiman will win. When Siver loses he can fight Lauzon.
yerp this, wiman will take him down and do what he did but worse to siver then what he did to miller

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If he wins impressively he could get a much tougher opponent, and he wouldn't be out of line to ask for a number one contender's bout.

Although, I think Wiman offers some serious problems to Siver.

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Wiiman is on the rise. He'll beat Siver.
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I'm not convinced Wiman takes this, Siver has good TDD - IMO good enough to keep the fight standing against Wiman where he can win the stand up and get a UD.

If he wins feed him to Guillard.
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Siver/Lauzon would be pretty awesome I'd like to see Siver/Stout or Siver/Cowboy as well. LW is so screwed up from title rematches right now and crammed full of talent that I don't really think these guys have to fight each other off of wins. Most of the guys in the top 25 are just going to trade wins anyways.

As long as you are beating guys we know are very talented I don't really think it matters what their record is for this division. I mean what is the difference between beating Danzig/Stout/Lauzon/Wiman or Cowboy/Bendo/Soti/Guida. You have to be pretty damn good to even beat guys like Cole Miller and Kamal Shalorus. Beating the 20-30 guys at LW in the UFC is damn impressive. There is probably more talent at LW right now than any other 2 divisions combined.
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screw siver, its not his fault but i maintain his fight with soti should have been a draw, 10-9 round 1 siver, 10-9 round 2 soti and 10-10 final round.
HAHAHAHA, oh god let's hope this guy is trolling.
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HAHAHAHA, oh god let's hope this guy is trolling.
It was a fairly close fight I remember thinking Soti clearly took one of the rounds standing and another was close but it wasn't any kind of a robbery. I don't remember what I scored the fight but there wasn't any reason to really complain about the decision since it is all perspective and personal bias when it is that close.
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Not sure how people think Siver/Soti was a robbery, Rounds 2 and 3 were close I had 2 for Soti and 3 for Siver but round 1 was Siver's and was a 10-8 round he dropped Soti twice and Soti was still hazy until about a minute into Round 2. Even the most Hardened Soti fan could only score the fight 28-28 at best.

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I wouldn't mind seeing Siver fight Guillard again, just so he can be sent back down the ladder again.

I have nothing against Siver as a person, but the fact that some people rate him above Guillard is funny. In 2008, Guillard finished him in under a minute. Since then, they both have only lost once. Siver lost to Ross Pearson not too long ago, and his only good win is a close decision against Sotiropoulos, a guy who is probably a good match up for him. His only other two wins after his loss to Pearson are against Winner, a guy who I'm not even sure if is still employed in the UFC, and against an out of prime Spencer Fisher who is probably going to be retiring soon.

Guillard on the other hand, beat a solid fighter in Gleison Tibau right after and has only lost to Nate Diaz since his win over Siver. I'm a fan of Diaz, but it's safe to say that Guillard had the upper hand up until he got caught in that guillotine choke. Melvin has gotten smarter since then. He is on a 4 fight winning streak, and has picked up wins over a game Jeremy Stephens, and Evan Dunham, a guy who was supposedly a bad match up for him and had a lot of momentum going into their fight. Guillard didn't beat him by a close decision, he finished him in the first round decisively.

Needless to say, but I think that Guillard is ahead of Siver in the rankings and I'd like to see him prove why he is again.

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