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Old 02-20-2007, 08:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Mirko is truly a rare breed of fighter. Sure there are others that have challenged him and only a couple that have been able to defeat him.

He will have his day in the UFC octagon and will become the new heavyweight champ. The UFC as a business entity is smart to do a gradual build up to his road to the title, it builds anticipation.

Sure I would love to see him unleash hell on Sylvia, not because I have anything against him personally. However, I think when we see what CroCop can truly do, it will amaze us all.
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Old 02-20-2007, 08:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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It's all about timing. The Sylvia vs Coutour fight was already set in motion before Mirko signed. No fighter, no matter how good you are, no matter your reputation will come into an organization and get an automatic title shot. After UFC 68, we will know who the HW champ is and after the Ganzaga/Mirko fight we will know who the #1 contender is. If Gonzaga beats Mirko, that's a HUGE if, he will get a title shot. The majority of the HW in the UFC are "bums" compared to Mirko but that doesn't mean Mirko should automatically get a shot, that's what the rankings are for. Same goes for Rampage in the LHW division, he'll get a title shot as soon as he becomes the #1 contender.

In short everyone in the HW division is a "bum" compared to Mirko CroCop, except Randy because he is a hall of famer.
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Old 02-20-2007, 08:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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+1...Randy is a bum HW at this point.

That's like saying Ken Shamrock isn't a bum @ LHW because he's a hall of famer...GTFO.
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Old 02-20-2007, 09:57 PM   #15 (permalink)
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It's all about timing. The Sylvia vs Coutour fight was already set in motion before Mirko signed. No fighter, no matter how good you are, no matter your reputation will come into an organization and get an automatic title shot. After UFC 68, we will know who the HW champ is and after the Ganzaga/Mirko fight we will know who the #1 contender is. If Gonzaga beats Mirko, that's a HUGE if, he will get a title shot. The majority of the HW in the UFC are "bums" compared to Mirko but that doesn't mean Mirko should automatically get a shot, that's what the rankings are for. Same goes for Rampage in the LHW division, he'll get a title shot as soon as he becomes the #1 contender.

In short everyone in the HW division is a "bum" compared to Mirko CroCop, except Randy because he is a hall of famer.
I agree with you sir, just cause his name is Mirko I personally don't think he should get a title shot until after he has fought in at least two UFC fights.
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Old 02-20-2007, 10:55 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Ok I can take you calling him a bum compared to Cro Cop at this point in his career. But if your saying hes been a bum his whole career I am just gonna snap.
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Old 02-20-2007, 11:10 PM   #17 (permalink)
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to get back to topic...i believe there is something on mmaweekly or ufcjunkie that says Chuck Liddell wants to go up to HW to fight Cro Cop because Cro Cop wont cut the weight to come down to LHW to fight Liddell
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hes fighting bums because the ufc doesent want to risk an upset yet until they can at least build him up then give him a good fight for a headline fight.

probably arlovski, there both can crushin right now and i heard they might fight
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Old 02-20-2007, 11:14 PM   #19 (permalink)
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The division is obvioulsy thin. Thats the reason Mirko was brought here. Thats the reason Herring was brought in. Herring might have even damaged the UFC Plans. It was very possible they wanted Herring to fighter Mirko as both of there #2 fights,but after he lost,maybe they decided that was a waste and wanna give Herring a chance to get a win or 2 first.

Vera looking for the big bucks are also hurting the UFC Heavyweight plans I'm sure. If you had him that would give Crocop the oppenents of Sylvia,AA,Vera and possibly Randy is he got some wins. With Vera leaving and Herring needing to get some wins,its sorta of put a monkey wrench in the HW divison.


A year from now though,there might be another contender or 2 for Mirko to battle.
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kameleon, i agree with most of what u said on ur post, but what about AA? hes not fighting, he was a contender not so long ago, and if mirko somehow looses, his opponent(gobanza or something) surely wont be that contender. Yeah its true that Mirko should not get an auto title shot for him to be "legit" in the ufc, but at least make his 2nd fight better than the first one. I dont see how it is a build up to beat a guy that is barely better than the first one.
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