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Old 07-10-2011, 08:21 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I´m with Dana in this one.

Let´s imagine he says he would cut then instead of saying they should retire.
I see it as a lot more disrespectful. Cutting a legend is just too bad.
At least when he says they should retire, he´s recognizing everything they´ve made for the sport in the past.
besides, it´s his company, i don´t think it´s in UFC best interest to have this legends getting knocked out cold evry time they get in there, not at all.
It actually is pretty bad as it makes then kind of a villain company.
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Old 07-10-2011, 12:55 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Don't see how people could really agree with Nog here... I've never seen Dana try to retire someone who doesn't need to retire. He's actually saving a lot of fighters from themselves as well. Look at Shamrock. Almost all fighters would continue to fight like that if they had a choice in the matter. Why risk permanent injury when you're obviously not the fighter you once were? I understand there is a great deal of pride in this sport but there is a point when you're risking your health and the image of the sport. If you come out with severe brain damage because you were too prideful to retire when you should it hurts the sport as a whole.
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Old 07-10-2011, 02:54 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Don't see how people could really agree with Nog here... I've never seen Dana try to retire someone who doesn't need to retire. He's actually saving a lot of fighters from themselves as well. Look at Shamrock. Almost all fighters would continue to fight like that if they had a choice in the matter. Why risk permanent injury when you're obviously not the fighter you once were? I understand there is a great deal of pride in this sport but there is a point when you're risking your health and the image of the sport. If you come out with severe brain damage because you were too prideful to retire when you should it hurts the sport as a whole.
Dana is trying to do what he thinks is right but he really has no place telling other people how to live their lives. Having a talk with a guy and voicing your concerns to him is completely different than trying to decide his life for him. He tried to retire Wandy and Crocop without even talking to them about it first that is bullshit. None of these guys have shown signs that they are completely forgone like Chuck either.

Everyone is being completely inconsistent on this issue anyways. How many times has Aoki been brutally wrecked? Why is no one calling on him to retire? Were you deciding Jardine's career for him after Bader knocked him out? I don't remember those threads that was 3 recent knockouts and getting dropped a bunch of times in between.

Somehow if you had a decent chin in the past and get knocked out a couple of times you need to retire but if you had a mediocre chin to start and get knocked out a bunch of times it is alright to keep fighting.
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Old 07-10-2011, 05:05 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I have a mixed view , on one side i can see Dana's point he doesnt want guys getting hurt and freakshow fights so instead of cutting them he tells them to retire.

But the other side is the fact that these guys are legends and i think they have earned the right to say when to hang it up and saying if you dont retire you're basically cut is slightly harsh.

Tough one to decide who is right.
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Old 07-10-2011, 07:42 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Its not so much looking out for the fighters as it is looking out for the company. Wandi is 2-6, in his mid 30s & has a bad chin.He literally has no value in the grand scheme of things. Rather than have blood on their hands they are severing ties with him & he is free to continue eleswhere if he pleases
Not neccessarilly:

- Wanderlei vs Belfort in Brazil has huge potential
- Wanderlei vs Sonnen has huge potential also

But the most important reason Wanderlei is stila valuabel is -----------> UFC heading to Japan! It's not that the UFC can't sell an event there: but Silva has legendaty status ove there and he would be a star attraction if he would be on that card. It would boost ratings ---> better marketing ---> more money ---> Dana loves money = "business as usual"
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Old 07-10-2011, 09:07 PM   #26 (permalink)
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What a ridiculous topic title.

This is a perfect example of why MMA forums are online argument centers.

Nog Slams Dana??

"I think he was unfortunate with his comments......"

I feel lured
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Old 07-10-2011, 10:32 PM   #27 (permalink)
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How many great boxers lost five fights in a row and continued boxing?

Even four.

It's not about Dana telling these guys how to live their lives.. it's about good fights, and of course, money.
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