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post #11 of 31 (permalink) Old 07-10-2011, 04:47 AM
 
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Such an extreme view. And it works. I wouldn't get rid of the belts though.






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It sounds like he said belts, but I think he meant bells.




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Yeah its a little extreme view, but the rules should be steered towards more finishes and less stalling. Top Fighters are far to evenly matched these days for there not be any decisions though. Just watch the Cruz/Faber fight, they were just far too evenly matched that they could of fought all night and neither would of still been able to finish.

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Yeah its a little extreme view, but the rules should be steered towards more finishes and less stalling. Top Fighters are far to evenly matched these days for there not be any decisions though. Just watch the Cruz/Faber fight, they were just far too evenly matched that they could of fought all night and neither would of still been able to finish.
They would because they'd know to win they have to go for it, and whoever is better will prevail.

The only problem I see with that is champions settling for draws so they don't lose their belt.

I don't think the issue is Cruz vs Faber type fights, it's more like Rashad vs T.Silva and Guida vs Pettis type fights where actually avoiding a fight and rather, just controlling the other guy gets the win.

Most people wouldn't agree that dry humping is combat. It's got an element of combat to it, but in MMA it's neutralizing everything else, so if you can't do anything with it and you effectively neutralize yourself as well as the other guy, then you should get the hell up and fight or be penalized.

Basically either fight or go home, this sport is nothing if it isn't entertaining.
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100% retardation.

Seriously. Get rid of the rounds? Any fight that goes to the judges should be an automatic draw? There is nothing to say to that except lol. I guess he thinks hockey, football and basketball should get rid of those annoying quarters and periods, they just clutter up the game. They should also make the nets twice as big, and anyone on the playing surface who hasn't scored in the last five minutes should be fired. That would all make as much sense as what he's saying.

He's right, fans do like finishes, and the only thing he says that makes even a little sense is regarding the pay scale rewarding aggressive fighters. Newsflash though BJ, they already give sub of the night, KO of the night, fight of the night bonuses. Which fighters do those reward? Oh, right, the ones who finish.

And results matter. This is something a SI writer wrote about, and I didn't agree with everything he said, but he nailed that part. MMA and its fans, do not care enough about results. In any professional sport, there are a lot of ways to judge the participants, but winning simply has to be the most important and relevant one. Winning has to matter more than anything else, not how you win, winning, as long as it's within the rules.

If winning isn't the most relevant statistic, then it's just a variation of Pro wrestling. If you like that, thats fine, but a professional competition can't do that.
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I think any rule made would be abused in some way or another. You will always have a fighter with more to lose and a fighter with more to gain. I think the belts are necessary to determine who is the champ at any one point in time and have structure in regards to matchmaking.

The Faber vs Cruz fight is a great example that was a 5 round war to rob someone of a win for not finishing would be wrong.

I think there should be judges and it has been said before on this forum that those judges should have experience in MMA. Something I think is more likely in the future given more seasoned pro's are now reaching a stage in their careers where their experience inside the octagon could be used to benefit the sport instead of giving them admin or PR jobs within the UFC. Would you argue with Chuck, Wandy and Crocop for example being on the judging panel?

Maybe tweak the scoring so TDD is scored as highly as TD's this way it would help stop the spamming to an extent. Maybe deduct points for just sitting in someones guard or stand them up quicker?
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Bj's record would be 13-2-10 under those rules. GSP's record would be 13-2-9.....So I guess Penn is less exciting
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No BJ...fans wanna see BJ Penn not gassing after 2 rounds.

And i totally don't agree with him.

GSP vs Fitch = DRAW?!?!?!? LMAO!!!

PS: not hating, just stating facts!

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No BJ...fans wanna see BJ Penn not gassing after 2 rounds.

And i totally don't agree with him.

GSP vs Fitch = DRAW?!?!?!? LMAO!!!

PS: not hating, just stating facts!
No, those are not the facts. It can be argued that BJ won that fight and many agree with that (including Hughes and Dana white). In my opinion, the third round was not a 10-8 and the second round was VERY close. So, please don't discredit BJ's performance by your arrogance.. thanks
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You do realize he said GSP and not BJ, right?

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