Originally Posted by Finnsidious
I think this is basically what Munoz is trying to say and it's true.
You don't need to be a wizard at BJJ if you have good wrestling, all you need are some fundamentals, especially on defense, to go with a really strong wrestling background and you will give BJJ guys a terrible time from the top, GSP is a perfect example.
Sonnen is a good example too, because he doesn't have even a decent level of sub defense, never mind overall BJJ, and he's a moron who is just too dumb to see when a sub is coming. I mean seriously, 7 times, who gets subbed 7 times with the same move and still calls himself a professional? Talk about a slow learner. If Sonnen had even average sub defense, he might be champ, but he doesnt, so he has a pile of losses.
i agree to some extent, sonnen has faced some very good black belts in bjj and while he was slow to learn sub defense i believe he does have it now
he was defending very will andersons attempt and even the last attempt he did the correct escape for the triangle, anderson just wouldnt let go of his arm and has freakislhy long legs, if he had shorter legs i think sonnen would have escaped the sub
not only that but nate has pretty good bjj, so does dan miller, and he did very well on the ground with them
the guy knows how to get out of a triangle or armbar, he just has a style that makes it easy to get caught, his GnP
his GnP gives bjj guys some serioys space to attempt armbars and subs, why does he give them that much space? because he just sits in their guard pounding on them instead of improving his position, so if he just stays in guard but isnt active the ref will stand them up (in theory, fitch doesnt give a shit)
if he just layed on guys like fitch or GSP does creating almost 0 space between them he wouldnt have been caught so much
at the end of the day i think sonnen knows how to escape tirangle and armbars, but he gives guys so many oppertunities to catch him that he ends up getting caught, thats his big mistake
you can be a bjj god but you still get caught daily in the gym, just becase you know bjj doesnt mean you dont get caught