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post #51 of 51 (permalink) Old 07-13-2011, 03:37 PM
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The first two were exciting because of Penn. The third was because of Fitch and I honestly feel the last round was the most exciting. As far as the "that fight would've been boring without BJ" logic... I can't follow that, honestly. I honestly do not see how someone could think that fight was boring in the least without some sort of bias. The first two rounds were frenetic as all hell and back and forth the whole time, highly contested. The third round was a gigantic ass whooping. As far as Fitch not crushing him in that round... if you don't call that a crushing I don't know what to call it. He beat the shit out of BJ. Seriously, when is the last time you've seen BJ THAT beaten up? Because I never have. Even after his fight with GSP he didn't look like he'd been beaten that baddly. Jon went hard for the entirety of that round, went straight through BJ's defense with almost everything and never stopped hitting him. He got wrecked hard.

As for him being robbed, I was more talking about the second fight. I thoroughly believe Jon would beat him twice as baddly this time. BJ surprised him in that first round and it's really the main reason he won that round. That wouldn't happen again. Once Jon got on top of his game and figured out a gameplan on the fly it was all Him.

As for "many, many, many people thinking BJ won" thing. Yeah a lot do. A lot of people think Jon won too. People who think BJ won also think that last round wasn't a 10-8 which, in my mind, is impossible to do without some sort of bias. 149-2 strikes means a 10-8 round. BJ had no defense the entire round and just got pounded on the entire time. The round was complete and total domination and there is NO WAY IN HELL that was not a 10-8. in my mind, the fight comes down to who you call the second round for as it was very, very contested. I gave it to BJ and I agree with the draw for the most part. I think Jon could have won that fight as well, but I see no way in hell that BJ won that fight. BJ himself said he lost that fight.

First, I agree with the draw as I said. While watching the fight I had it 1 7 2 for BJ 10-9, 3 for Jon 10-8. I was crossing my fingers that Jon won the second, which like I said was highly contested, the judges frequently score things against my own scoring (and it seems MMA fans as a whole). Had the judges even scored the second round a 10-10, which I think it could've been rather easily, Jon would've won that fight.

Second, if Fitch didn't crush him then what do you call that third round? Seriously, that was one of the biggest rounds I've seen for a fighter in a long, long time. I don't recall another fighter ever beating on his opponent that hard for that long. Any other fighter in that weight division would've been finished I think. BJ is a tank and can take damage like it's no ones business.
The first two rounds were exciting because it was Penn, and the second round was decent. Fitch didn't pass guard, Fitch didn't get into any dominant positions, all Fitch did was stay on top and pitter patter shots with a few solid ones thrown throughout. Penn didn't even look that beat up, he has some swelling on his eye, that was about it. Also, the reason Fitch did that last round was because Penn is a natural 145 fighter who is fighting 2 divisions ahead of his own, and he can't handle the weight. Fitch's third round was exciting because he was fighting a guy who was so gassed and tired he couldn't defend himself. That's not impressive, that's just fighting a 145 guy when he has a lot of body fat on him and can't handle the weight.

As for crushing, it was 2 rounds vs 1. Fitch lost 2, he won 1. That means Penn won the most rounds, it means when Penn was not tired and had energy to actually fight, he beat Fitch. If your useage of "crush" is Fitch staying on top of Penn while he's gassed and tired so he actaully wins a round, then sure, I agree, Fitch "crusehd" Penn.

I never said nobody thought Fitch won, I was pointing out that your opinion shows different from many, including Dana and the judges. Penn won 2 out of 3 rounds, and the last round he was gassed and tired, and that him "getting robbed" of a win in a rematch or whatever is just wrong, as Penn very well could have won that fight, the final decision was a draw, etc etc, so who knows how the second fight would go.

Basically, a natural 145 fighter moved up 2 weight classes where he can't really compete because of cardio, took on one of the if not the biggest WW out there, beat him 2 out of 3 rounds, and the only reason he lost the third was because he can't handle the weight. I don't call that crushing, by any means whatsoever.
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