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post #11 of 64 (permalink) Old 07-13-2011, 12:07 AM
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Ellenberger might actually win this fight.
What is Ellenberger going to do what Henderson, Daley, Lawlor, Condit, and Kampmann couldn't and knock Shields out?
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What is Ellenberger going to do what Henderson, Daley, Lawlor, Condit, and Kampmann couldn't and knock Shields out?
Ellenberger is going to put Shields on his back and pound him out in the first.

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eh i say ellenburger sprawl and brawls and might get a finish, he ha spower and cardio and good wrestling, watch burger vs condit


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If Diaz can somehow beat GSP I would imagine Shields would be moving up to 185lbs. I believe he feels better physically there and no real point hanging around WW if his boy is Champ. Of course Diaz would have to beat GSP first. Personally I give him far better odds than most.
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I've read something on a MMA site, a comment from a reader:

"Shields has been putting me to sleep way too often with his fights...time for him to go to sleep now..."

That's like a low blow.

If Ellenberger tags Shields, he will finish him...and i don't wana hear the Hendo fight argument.

Ellenberger is a young, fit man, hungry to climb up the rankings and he has the tools to beat Shields.

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Ellenberger might actually win this fight.
I have Ellenberger winning. He is a big strong WW with a wrestling background and he has way better striking and power than Sheilds.

Sheilds UFC run has not been that impressive so far.

He arguably lost to Kampman.

He had a snoozer against GSP.

And he could likely lose to Ellenberger.

Dont be surprised to see Sheilds go on a losing streak, this is not SF or Elite XC.

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I definitely take Shelds by sub in this one. Ellenberger almost got subbed by Rocha, and when Shields is on, his JJ is some of the best in MMA.

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All in on Shields. He will put Ellenberger to sleep for sure. Ellenberger is terribly overrated tbh. If Rocha would have been smarter, he would have won their fight too.
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The only reason Ellenberger nearly got subbed by Rocha was because he took Rocha down. He obviously underestimated Rocha's BJJ skills.

Berger has some serious wrestling and good power, but his cardio is still a question mark.

Shields could eventually wear him down and secure a TD and get the sub.
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Berger has some serious wrestling and good power, but his cardio is still a question mark.
The first bold - he will use that to avoid getting taken down by Shields.

The second bold - he will use that to KO Shields.

Ellenberger's power is pretty underrated. He has wins by T/KO.
He knocked Pierson out with one punch - a short hook.
He knocked down Condit several times - not many people can say they did that. It was Condit's experience and incredible regeneration capacity + Ellenberger getting tired that won Condit the fight.

Shields must make this a grappling fight in order to win it.

Otherwise he has "big chances" of going to sleep.

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