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Old 07-15-2011, 02:30 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I guarantee Jake will win this fight.
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:24 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Not sure how this fits into the thread, but I feel like Shields is better at 185. Anyways, back on topic, not sure who takes this one. I've seen a couple of Ellenberger's fights but to be honest I can't recall any of them. Hopefully it turns into a good fight. Haven't really enjoyed a Shields fight in a long time... if ever... lol.
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Ellenberger could easily knock Shields the **** out.

Furthermore, Ellenberger is the much better wrestler of the two, and it's very possible we see...again a GSP-Shields type dynamic where Shields does nothing because he can't get a takedown or even in a decent position to get one.

Ellenberger...unlike GSP though could murder Shields with a right hand.

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Why because he's Brazilian? Shields has done much more in grappling than Rocha ever has. Rocha MAYBE won Mundials as a blue belt...but I've never seen anything to substantiate it.
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Old 07-15-2011, 04:06 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Ellenberger could easily knock Shields the **** out.

Furthermore, Ellenberger is the much better wrestler of the two, and it's very possible we see...again a GSP-Shields type dynamic where Shields does nothing because he can't get a takedown or even in a decent position to get one.

Ellenberger...unlike GSP though could murder Shields with a right hand.




Why because he's Brazilian? Shields has done much more in grappling than Rocha ever has. Rocha MAYBE won Mundials as a blue belt...but I've never seen anything to substantiate it.
I completely agree, someone brought up Rocha is better than Shields at BJJ in another thread. We really have no way of knowing that. From watching them Rocha is clearly more athletic and explosive with his movements on the ground but that doesn't mean he is actually overall better or that he would win a grappling match.

I don't know that Ellenberger is a much better wrestler but Shield's shot isn't very fast for a WW he has to drag people to the ground and Ellenberger doesn't so I would bet on him gaining more takedowns if they are grappling with each other.
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Shields will probably take this fight, but he's going to have a seriously tough fight on his hands. Shields by a tough UD.
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Ellenberger could easily knock Shields the **** out.

Furthermore, Ellenberger is the much better wrestler of the two, and it's very possible we see...again a GSP-Shields type dynamic where Shields does nothing because he can't get a takedown or even in a decent position to get one.

Ellenberger...unlike GSP though could murder Shields with a right hand.




Why because he's Brazilian? Shields has done much more in grappling than Rocha ever has. Rocha MAYBE won Mundials as a blue belt...but I've never seen anything to substantiate it.
just more dangerous with his bjj back and on top, shields hasn't looked fantastic on his back and he hasn't dominate peoples bjj defense like rocha, he turned ellenburger around like a spin top in side control, i guess next time he'll just go for mount and pound someone.
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I guarantee Jake will win this fight.
I'm with you on that.

Either Jake on the ground, or Jake scrapping it out on the feet. Ellenberger = no weapons anywhere.
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From what I've seen of Rocha, his BJJ looks more effective than Jake Shields'. But then again, it's difficult to judge, considering the varying levels of competition the two have fought.

Rocha seems to be much more aggressive with his subs, like Palharris, infact, that's exactly who he reminds me of on the ground, a welterweight version of Paul Harris.

He absolutely schooled Ellenberger any time it went to the ground.
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