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post #41 of 64 (permalink) Old 07-16-2011, 03:27 PM
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Ellenberger might be weak against subs on the ground but this pointless unless you can get him on the ground. Ellenberger has great wrestling and that is why Rocha outside of 1 min didnt have anything for Ellenberger. The same will happen with Shields, I doubt he will be able to get berger on the ground and will be eating tons of heavy handed punches while standing.

Ellenberger is a beast on his feet and his wrestling will let him dictate where this fight takes place.
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Ellenberger may have power on his feet, but I doubt more than Dan Henderson and Shields recovered from that.

Not to mention, Ellenbergers stand-up ability, other than power, is extremelly limited. Shields on the other hand, while he looks aweful, he is somewhat like Nick Diaz in that he is still effective and gets the job done. He is very cagey in the stand-up which makes up for his lack of natural ability standing.
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Ellenberger may have power on his feet, but I doubt more than Dan Henderson and Shields recovered from that.

Not to mention, Ellenbergers stand-up ability, other than power, is extremelly limited. Shields on the other hand, while he looks aweful, he is somewhat like Nick Diaz in that he is still effective and gets the job done. He is very cagey in the stand-up which makes up for his lack of natural ability standing.
Yes...but Ellenberger isn't 40, with a bad weight cut, some back problems and he won't gas after 5 minutes.

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And he isn't a quarter of the fighter of Hendo to begin with......so his in big problems!
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ellenburger has power and cardio and killer instinct i think he beats shields, ellenburger rocked condit many times and condits chin is hard so i think he can eventually ko shields with sprawl and brawl


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Yes...but Ellenberger isn't 40, with a bad weight cut, some back problems and he won't gas after 5 minutes.
Ellenberger is 4-4 when he goes the distance the wins (Rocha, Seguin, Lakebir, Healy) vs the loses (Condit, Story, Noble, Heiron).

His only chance at beating Shields is stopping him, which hasn't happened in 10 years.

This is Shields fight to lose, I think this is sort of a to big step up for Ellenberger and it will end badly for him.
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I know the Ellenberger name, but I honestly have no idea who this kid is nor do I remember anything significant about any of his "wins" in the cage.

The exact opposite rings true with Jake Shields.

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Yes...but Ellenberger isn't 40, with a bad weight cut, some back problems and he won't gas after 5 minutes.
I'm truly embarrassed by this post. Limba, re-read this a few times. I hope your sense comes back and you retract it.

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Hendo didn't stop Shields because he gassed terribly in the first round.

If Ellenberger cracks Shields, he's got problems. Period.


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And he isn't a quarter of the fighter of Hendo to begin with......so his in big problems!
That may be the case...but at least he won't gas after 5 minutes.

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Nope.
Read it *1,000* times.

Sounds better and better.

I'm really confident Ellenberger will beat Shields.

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