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UFC 138 – Cung Le calls for a fight with Chris Leben

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#1 ·
“I would like to have a couple of fights in the UFC. I’m one of those guys that, if it’s going to be an exciting fight and a good match-up for the fans to watch, let’s get it on. I have nothing to prove, so I’m down to fight anyone if it’s going to be exciting for the fans to watch. Right now, it’s all up to the UFC. Ever since I heard that Cain [Velasquez] was going to be fighting in San Jose … I would love to be on the same card. You know, on Yahoo! Sports, there is a Cung Le vs. [Chris] Leben thread if there was a cross promotion. Like I said, if the fans think it is an exciting fight for them to watch, I’m all for it.”

http://www.mmamania.com/2011/7/18/2281241/ufc-138-cung-le-is-all-for-an-exciting-fight-against-chris-leben-in
 
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#4 ·
@ Joseph Smith: Stop. Just stop.

As for Cung Le, I have to admit I'd kind of like to see him fight in the UFC :shame02: Leben would stand with him and it'd be fun to see. I've never heard of Cung Le outside of MMA, but he might have fans of his movies that tune in or something.
 
#5 ·
Yeh, MMA made Cung Le and it's too bad he doesn't give back to the sport as much.

He was fantastic to watch but his days are gone, he looked sh*t in his last fight out and is only getting older.

I think he wants some more promotion and what bigger stage than the UFC on a HW title card against an easy opponent who just got some notoriety.
 
#11 · (Edited)
He looked like shit in his last fight?? What fight is that? his last MMA fight was a rematch against Scott Smith and he looked nowhere near shit. The guy got a finish in the second round due to a body kick. He didnt take alot of damage and managed to return alot and make it entertaining. Did you even actually watch the fight?? Cung Le just finished what he started in their first fight before one of the best out of nowhere comeback haymaker landed on his chin.


Leben would Destroy Cung Le.

How old is he now? He must be pushing 40 surely?
Cung Le would destroy Leben. Cung is a nightmare match up for Leben. It would look similar to Bisping vs leben, except, Cung Le hits alot harder then Bisping does and is ALOOOT more versatile. Im not sure what Lebens body kick defense is like BUT they would be coming Hard,Fast and strong.

No new movie projects? :( Nevertheless, it would be an interesting fight to see, Cung Le in good shape is a dangerous striker, but yeah Leben would "kill him" in a fight.
See above. Sometimes i wonder if you guys write stuff before thinking. Stylistically Leben has nothing to offer Cung Le. Only way Leben takes this is if we get a mirror image of Cung le vs Scott Smith 1.

cung lee doesnt get my respect because he gives nothing back to mma like fine wine said and then expects to just be signed to fight a ufc contender after being off doing movies for a year or two
Gives nothing back to MMA?? Whats with that? i saw a couple people posting that.

I dont know where to start but i guess il try with
MMA IS NOT A PERSON. Cung Le didnt borrow anything from this guy MMA and then decide to not return it. Cung Le worked hard for his wins and entertained the crowd in doing so. He put his body in harms way for the sport. The guy owns his own gym and does a good amount off public seminars. He helps alot of people train and if that isnt giving back then i dont know what is. You guys act like he owes you something, which is silly and selfish. He cant make a movie or 2 without you guys thinking ill of him?? That is sooo unbelievably unreasonable. You guys have your own lives, dont try to live his for him.


Now that i finished opening the flood gate to negs.

Id actually love for Cung Le to get a shot in the UFC. Give him 2 fights against average opponents to see where he is at. If he still looks in shape and motivated and gets those wins then we start treating him like a contender. Cung Le can be used for some pretty interesting fights (Silva,Stann,Leben,Wanderlei,Bisping). The MW division is pretty weak and it seems like there isn't alot of people in it. If it was a wrestling based division like the WW division is, then id see little hope for him to be relevant. Lucky for him there is alot of people in the MW division that would be happy to trade with him. He would have a few kryptonites such as Chael,Munoz and Yushin. Even though i doubt it, in a main event fight, Cung Le would have 25min to try and submit Chael (My moneys on Chael). Munoz does not have the best shot and gets caught up in trading punches, but if Munoz gets Cung down then Cung is in some serious trouble. Yushin Okami is probably the fight Cung le is least likely to win.
So id have to say, if Cung Le looks good in his next fight, i would love to see him mix it up in the UFC MW Division.

All The Best
 
#9 ·
cung lee doesnt get my respect because he gives nothing back to mma like fine wine said and then expects to just be signed to fight a ufc contender after being off doing movies for a year or two
 
#10 ·
Cung Le is dope to watch. Most of us train here, but only a few actually compete. If you fought and had an opportunity to make films (higher earning potential) would you take it? Rampage has, Herring has, Couture did, and the same with Cung. Now I respect the fighters who do act, but know what their bread and butter is.

Cung Le vs Leben would be one interesting fight. Cung would have to stick and move like crazy as the Crip Zombie comes after em...
 
#14 ·
I'm gonna get it over with and say it...cung le will murder leben if the were to hook up in the octagon. Leben struggles with any technical striker and one back kick from cung le it would be good night for him. Cung le has destroyed everybody he has faced, he got caught by smith the first time but was absolute destroying him before that happen.
 
#20 ·
Wandy doesnt really have better striking then Chris Leben. He is probably better overall BUT i believe that Chris is a better boxer. Wanderlei runs right in and swings wild while Chris is similar BUT is more accurate and has a chin to back his style up.
To beat Leben standing you need a striker that is extremely technical, versatile and quick, Also known as Cung Le.
 
#19 ·
Is Cung Le raelly in a position where he can come into the UFC calling for whatever fight he wants? Im not sure.

That said, I think a fight between him a Leban would be exciting. If Cung Le does not gas I would have him winning, those kicks are lethal.
 
#28 ·
I'd have to agree with Tyson and Sideways... Cung Lee is a bad match-up for Leben.

He's extremely active and has very unpredictable strikes. Leben goes into zombie mode and will be tagged all night long. I'd recon I could win good credits with a UD with Lee.

I also want to add that there is nothing wrong with doing a few projects on the side of mma. The football players do it in the CFL, actually 99.9% of them have other jobs because it isn't enough for them to live. If you're not the #1 guy in the world, it's hard to make a good pay day (especially if you fight 1-2X a year).

:thumbsup:
 
#29 ·
Leben wouldn't have much trouble putting away Le, all he would have to do is keep the pressure on. Lebens grappling should be years ahead of Cung's, but honestly I'm pretty confident he would keep Cung uncomfortable on the feet, moving backward, and knock him out.

To Leben, fighting and knocking a guy out is kind of a normal thing at this point. For Cung, he almost had an aneurism when Frank Shamrock broke his arm and couldn't continue. When I look at the two of them (Leben and Le), I see a level of comfort in the cage that is not even comparable. To compare two different fights and say that Cung would outpoint Leben just like Bisping did, is ridiculous. Scott Smith is old, Scott Smith can't even afford TRT!!!, and he still stopped Le. Sure, Cung beat him in the rematch, but my point is that Smith isn't Chris Leben. Leben isn't broke! If this fight happens, Leben will come in juiced to the legal limits, and he will literally crush Le's skull into the octagon floor!

Right now, I'd like to see Leben fight someone a little more relevant. Cung should prove he can beat a wrestler at this point, that is my opinion.
 
#31 ·
Big surprise... Cung calling out a guy he knows will just stand there and trade punches with him...

I hope he does come to the UFC and they book him against Chris Weidman or something. Heck, I'd even take CB Dolloway vs Cung... someone to introduce Cung to the mixed part of mixed martial arts.
 
#39 ·
Are we in Bizzaro world where MW is the one division that's being run properly

Silva (1) Okami(2)
Sonnen (3) Stann (4)

Munoz (5) Leben(10)
Bisping (6) J. Miller (11)
Maia (7) Santiago (12)
Belfort (8) Akiyama (13)
Palhares (9) D. Miller (14)

Can you imagine if the FW, LW, LHW, or HW divisions where ran that well.

You can argue that the clear cut top two guys are fighting for the title, with the next two guys fighting for the next shot and the 5-9 guys facing the 10-14 guys in descending order.
 
#42 · (Edited)
I've seen him fight and I am from the San Jose Vietnamese community, I have every reason to be a nuthugger of his but I'm going to be realistic here and say Le's been out of action for a loooong time.

And honestly he may be good but he has never been tested fully, closest was Shamrock and Smith of which one of them knocked Le out. He's yet to face a powerful wrestler and although he might squeeze by Leben, any good UFC 185'er would end him. He is far too undersized and there are alot better wrestlers at 170 for him to truly compete, he'll be a decent gate keeper though as his striking is sharp, he has a brown belt in BJJ and a background in wrestling.

He also has a pretty good mentality about training so he can evolve but it's a bit late in his career for much more improvement.
 
#45 ·
I actually think this would be a bad fight for Chris Leben.. Leben doesn't do very well against opponents with good footwork.

Cung blasts through brawlers.

Stylistic nightmare for Leben.

I'd pick Cung to win by UD.
 
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