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armbar or triangle from being on the bottom of a full mount? has that ever been done? the only thing i see happening is being bumped off...

but i did think it was an illegal move.. but cung lee wasn't warned or stopped when he literally tried to strangle scott smith in the rematch
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stick your finger in the other guys mouth and 'hook' his gums. (See Gangs of New York for attempted fish hook manouver)
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Small Joint manipulation is illegal.. but that does bring up a good question..

While in the full mount.. why not just choke them out with "strangle" method? Like Chung Lee tried to do in one of his bouts.. From what I understand that move was illegal.. But I guess not... is it a under used method? hehe
You mean the kind of move that Rogan called a "****-chocke"? I thought that was perfectly legal but not very effective.

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Are wrists considered small joint? I know you can't attack then fingers toes etc. but you can attack the ankle, which I've seen, but I don't recall ever seeing any kind of wrist lock. Do fighters just not attempt them because of the gloves and tape, which prevent it from being painful enough to tap?

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Are wrists considered small joint? I know you can't attack then fingers toes etc. but you can attack the ankle, which I've seen, but I don't recall ever seeing any kind of wrist lock. Do fighters just not attempt them because of the gloves and tape, which prevent it from being painful enough to tap?
I believet that is correct. Be hard to get a wrist lock with all that wrapping. I could be wrong but that makes sense.
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Are wrists considered small joint? I know you can't attack then fingers toes etc. but you can attack the ankle, which I've seen, but I don't recall ever seeing any kind of wrist lock. Do fighters just not attempt them because of the gloves and tape, which prevent it from being painful enough to tap?
They just don't work, period. Some guys even have wrists you can bend all the way back in any direction with no discomfort.



As for "**** choke" like Wand did against Jardine, it's more of a head control move. If he were actually trying to squeeze Jardine's trach it'd be illegal but he was basically just holding his neck to keep his head in place.

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You mean the kind of move that Rogan called a "****-chocke"? I thought that was perfectly legal but not very effective.
never heard of that term... he doesn't commentate strikeforce.. ??

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They just don't work, period. Some guys even have wrists you can bend all the way back in any direction with no discomfort.



As for "**** choke" like Wand did against Jardine, it's more of a head control move. If he were actually trying to squeeze Jardine's trach it'd be illegal but he was basically just holding his neck to keep his head in place.
ahh that makes sense.. but cung lee wasn't using that tactic for sure.. he was trying to strangle somebody!!
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ahh that makes sense.. but cung lee wasn't using that tactic for sure.. he was trying to strangle somebody!!

sounds hilarious, I never saw the rematch so I can't comment.

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They just don't work, period. Some guys even have wrists you can bend all the way back in any direction with no discomfort.



As for "**** choke" like Wand did against Jardine, it's more of a head control move. If he were actually trying to squeeze Jardine's trach it'd be illegal but he was basically just holding his neck to keep his head in place.
Ah makes sence. Thx

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you can see a fishhook in ABBOTT VS TAKTAROV.

btw. this is the best random question ever.
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