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Old 08-02-2011, 01:56 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Yea it told me to "spread the love" or whatever man so I figured that was the problem. Been on the forum for several years now but hardly use the rep system as I normally see it used to shake the finger at someone who doesn't agree with you... In other words its new to me but big up's!
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:43 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 08-02-2011, 01:04 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I think Bisping loses to the following:

Sonnen
- Would wrestle**** Bisping to shit.
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- Better than Bisping in every area
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- Would KTFO Bisping
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- Too strong for Bisping and too good of a wrestler, has heavy hands
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- Would take Bisping's arm home
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- Would blitz Bisping into oblivion
Weidman
- See 'Okami'

Is a toss up against the following:
Leben
- Lit him up the first time, but Leben seems to be a different fighter now
Wanderlei
- Beat Bisping last time and almost finished him twice. Comes forward and has great striking and cardio.
Palhares
- If the fight goes to the ground it's over, but I doubt it would get there

And beats the following:
Santiago
- Has a weak chin and won't be able to match Bisping's pace
Akiyama
- Granite chin but too slow and telegraphed
Mayhem
- Doesn't have the striking or the jitz necessary to beat Bisping
Miller
- Bad striking, tough, but can't match Bisping's pace
Sorry but I have do disagree with you about Mayhem. You are really saying his jitz isnt good enough to beat Bisping? He has some of the best jitz in the MW division.
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Old 08-02-2011, 01:29 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Sorry but I have do disagree with you about Mayhem. You are really saying his jitz isnt good enough to beat Bisping? He has some of the best jitz in the MW division.
I agree... I think a lot of people are gonna be shocked how well Mayhem does in the UFC.
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Old 08-02-2011, 01:37 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I agree that Mayhem is underrated, but I think that Bisping might have one of the most underrated ground games in the UFC. He's not going to be pulling off any triangles or anything, but he's got very good ground defense. I've never seen Bisping in any trouble in the ground except for the first round of the Matt Hamill fight. Since then he's drastically improved his TDD and ground game.

I still don't think he would compete with guys like Sonnen, Weidman, and Okami on the mat, but I think he can get by Mayhem just fine.
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Old 08-02-2011, 01:52 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I agree that Mayhem is underrated, but I think that Bisping might have one of the most underrated ground games in the UFC. He's not going to be pulling off any triangles or anything, but he's got very good ground defense. I've never seen Bisping in any trouble in the ground except for the first round of the Matt Hamill fight. Since then he's drastically improved his TDD and ground game.

I still don't think he would compete with guys like Sonnen, Weidman, and Okami on the mat, but I think he can get by Mayhem just fine.
I think Mayhem could put in work against guys like Okami and Munoz is what I was implying but I do think Sonnen's wrestling is a problem for everyone at Middleweight.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:52 PM   #27 (permalink)
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If your talking about Stann??? I think you got me mixed up. I clearly said if Stann wins he deserves a shot and if he loses he shouldn't rematch Leben. IS that what your talkking about?
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2 Questions then... When exactly does Munoz expect to fight for a belt then? It could be a long time. Why do you think a win over Brian Stann warrants an rematch with Silva. I think it warrents a Bisbing or Leben fight but not a title rematch.

You said a win over Brian Stann (Chael's win) wouldn't warrant a rematch with Silva, it'd warrant a Bisping or Leben fight. My question is why would beating Stann get you a shot at Leben? Who already got trashed by Stann?
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Old 08-03-2011, 03:07 PM   #28 (permalink)
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You said a win over Brian Stann (Chael's win) wouldn't warrant a rematch with Silva, it'd warrant a Bisping or Leben fight. My question is why would beating Stann get you a shot at Leben? Who already got trashed by Stann?
I'm sure you've watched enough fights to know just cause Stann beat Leben and if Sonnen beats Stann he can also beat Leben. That stupid fight algebra. So since Leben "trashed" Wande and Wande beat Bisbing we already know the outcome of a Bisbing vs Leben fighht?

What I was really getting at is if Sonnen beats Stann he should have to fight someone else, anyone for that matter, to get another shot.
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Old 08-03-2011, 03:14 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I'm sure you've watched enough fights to know just cause Stann beat Leben and if Sonnen beats Stann he can also beat Leben. That stupid fight algebra. So since Leben "trashed" Wande and Wande beat Bisbing we already know the outcome of a Bisbing vs Leben fighht?

What I was really getting at is if Sonnen beats Stann he should have to fight someone else, anyone for that matter, to get another shot.
No....here's why

1. The Silva/Sonnen rematch was already established
2. If Okami wins first guy to get a shot at him should be the last guy to beat him (Sonnen)
3. Stann is a huge fight for Chael and a win over Stann is better in my eyes than a win over any other MW fight in consideration.
4. We can't wait around for someone to be "deserving of a title shot", if Chael's next in line he's next in line.
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Old 08-03-2011, 04:14 PM   #30 (permalink)
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No....here's why

1. The Silva/Sonnen rematch was already established
2. If Okami wins first guy to get a shot at him should be the last guy to beat him (Sonnen)
3. Stann is a huge fight for Chael and a win over Stann is better in my eyes than a win over any other MW fight in consideration.
4. We can't wait around for someone to be "deserving of a title shot", if Chael's next in line he's next in line.
Really? you think that highly of stann? DOn't get me wrong he is a great human being, but from a fighting stand point his biggest claim to fame is a win over leben. I'm not going to buy into the stann hype, this fight does nothing for sonnen as Stann is just on hype right now. People i view better win for sonnen is vitor,maia,bisping, munoz.
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