Originally Posted by Squirrelfighter
I'm not just a fan I'm also a practitioner, so yes, I do "understand" what it means to have that kind of cardio.
As amazed as I am to be quoting Nick Diaz he said plainly that its bullshit that fighters gas out the way they do. He knows he can go at full speed for five rounds at 80% of his anerobic maximun, because through his Triathalon training he spends hours at nearly 100% of his anerobic max. And if one fighter can train hard enough to get into and stay in that kind of shape, and he only fights once every 3-4 months, what is the excuse for another fighter not being able to do the same when he fights with the same regularity?
As I said I'm against the 5 round main events. But I definitely think its a cop out to say fighters physically can't do it, when there's overwhelming proof that it is possible.
Nick Diaz has been to the fifth round once in his career. How is that overwhelming proof? Let's see how much energy he has fighting GSP in the 4th and 5th if he goes full on in rounds 1-2-3.
I actually like the 5-round system. The difference is, I that I think all fights should be 5 rounds, not just Championship fights. 5-round fights to me would offer more clarity, more opportunities for a finish, and more chances to score points with take downs, lay 'n pray, wall 'n stall, etc. To me it just offers both chances and would make wrestling fans like myself happy and the "Just Bleeders" happy as well.
I agree that every fighter in the UFC should be able to fight for 25 minutes, and that gassing otherwise just shows an inability or a level of apathy to compete at the top level.
I believe there's been four or five 5th round finishes in all UFC history. I can't find any record of how many have been finished in the fourth, but I can't recall any off-hand.
Let's take a lot at everyone's favorite WW champion.
Before he defended his belt, he had 11 fights in the UFC and only 3 went to decision. Counting his first successful title defense, he's had seven fights and five have gone to decision.
3 round fights: 27% went to decision.
5 round fights: 71% went to decision.
And now let's look at a good amount of the previous champions in the UFC and see how many have finished a fight in the 4th or 5th round.
Edgar: 0 finishes in 4th of 5th
BJ Penn: 1 finish in 4th, 1 finish in 5th
Matt Hughes: 2 finishes in 4th 0 in 5th
GSP: 0 finishes in 4th or 5th, one corner stoppage after 4th
Silva: 1 finish in 5th
Franklin: 1 finish in 4th
LHW: no one has been finished in the 4th or 5th at LHW.
Rizzo: only HW fight finished in 4th (vs. Randy).