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Brendan Schaub 26 66.67%
Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira 13 33.33%
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post #21 of 104 (permalink) Old 08-22-2011, 06:55 AM
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Please provide some examples of this. I always thought there was a reason as to why he's one of the most respected fighters in the sport, and not just by fans, but by the fighters as well.
Gladly,

My first taste of Big Nog was the first Dan Henderson fight in RINGS...It was a fight he should have won, and Henderson did get a gift decision, but the way he behaved during and after the fight, as well as using Dan Henderson's throat as a means to get up completely put me off to him.

His incessent bitching about Fedor...He got his ass kicked twice and still to this day is bitching about it, making excuses, badmouthing Fedor, etc.

His whining after he was beaten by Josh Barnett.

We all know about the "staph-infection" incident with Frank Mir. If he had staph infection a week before the fight, he should have pulled out. Fact is, Mir beat his ass standing.

This is just a response for the reasons you bolded. If you want to talk about why I dislike Nogueira, send me a PM or I'll give you my phone number, because I could talk about it all day





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KO'ing Gonzaga and Cro Cop aren't exactly something that anyone can do. Also, he showed a nice overall MMA game against CC I thought, mixing in some TDs with his striking, took him down a couple of times, controlled him and GnP'd him a bit too.
Schaub didn't KO Gonzaga. He fought an extremely disinterested and unmotivated fighter with quite possibly one of the worst mental games in the sport. Did you watch the fight? When Gonzaga actually decided to fight he WRECKED Schaub.

I wasn't really impressed with his victory over Cro Cop. He got a lucky shot in my opinion, and was down on my scorecards, and just about everyone else's. Cro Cop was beating his ass with his telegraphed shots.



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But when you usually watch fights where you're rooting against both fighters (and considering you dislike these two, you probably tend to watch LOTS of these fights), one fighter is going to win - so how can you watch any?
It just makes me sad that there will be one of two outcomes to this fight.

A) Nogueira wins in Brazil, everyone gets excited...Yah yah yah.

B) Schaub once again beats an aging fighter and gets vaulted into contender status when he doesn't really even belong in the top 15 in my opinion.

With fights like Nate Diaz vs. Melvin Guillard, I know that neither guy was relevant at the time. So I enjoyed watching them beat eachother up.

I'll still probably order the PPV, but it's my least favorite fighter and a guy I have zero respect for fighting a guy who is a cocky, overrated tool in a potential title eliminator. Either way, I lose

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Gladly,

My first taste of Big Nog was the first Dan Henderson fight in RINGS...It was a fight he should have won, and Henderson did get a gift decision, but the way he behaved during and after the fight, as well as using Dan Henderson's throat as a means to get up completely put me off to him.

His incessent bitching about Fedor...He got his ass kicked twice and still to this day is bitching about it, making excuses, badmouthing Fedor, etc.

His whining after he was beaten by Josh Barnett.

We all know about the "staph-infection" incident with Frank Mir. If he had staph infection a week before the fight, he should have pulled out. Fact is, Mir beat his ass standing.

This is just a response for the reasons you bolded. If you want to talk about why I dislike Nogueira, send me a PM or I'll give you my phone number, because I could talk about it all day







Schaub didn't KO Gonzaga. He fought an extremely disinterested and unmotivated fighter with quite possibly one of the worst mental games in the sport. Did you watch the fight? When Gonzaga actually decided to fight he WRECKED Schaub.

I wasn't really impressed with his victory over Cro Cop. He got a lucky shot in my opinion, and was down on my scorecards, and just about everyone else's. Cro Cop was beating his ass with his telegraphed shots.





It just makes me sad that there will be one of two outcomes to this fight.

A) Nogueira wins in Brazil, everyone gets excited...Yah yah yah.

B) Schaub once again beats an aging fighter and gets vaulted into contender status when he doesn't really even belong in the top 15 in my opinion.

With fights like Nate Diaz vs. Melvin Guillard, I know that neither guy was relevant at the time. So I enjoyed watching them beat eachother up.

I'll still probably order the PPV, but it's my least favorite fighter and a guy I have zero respect for fighting a guy who is a cocky, overrated tool in a potential title eliminator. Either way, I lose
Personally, what turned me off on both of the Nogs was the Brilz fight where they refused to shake his hand post fight, I thought it was a dick move.

I like Schaub though, so I hope he wins.

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I'm pulling for Schaub in this one. not because I like him or dislike Nog but, because it would set up a great tuf/NFL contender match between Schaub and my boy Meathead after he KO's Kongo.

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Man, I've never really seen too much hate on the Nogs. One thing I agree on ---> Schaub once again beats an aging fighter and gets vaulted into contender status when he doesn't really even belong in the top 15 in my opinion.

Suppose the consolation is if he wins he gets a top fiver which will put em to the test. He's more of a product of his training camp. Actually him vs Mitrione would be another interesting matchup. I don't particularly like Mitrione, but Mitrione is far more technical.
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Gladly,

My first taste of Big Nog was the first Dan Henderson fight in RINGS...It was a fight he should have won, and Henderson did get a gift decision, but the way he behaved during and after the fight, as well as using Dan Henderson's throat as a means to get up completely put me off to him.

His incessent bitching about Fedor...He got his ass kicked twice and still to this day is bitching about it, making excuses, badmouthing Fedor, etc.

His whining after he was beaten by Josh Barnett.

We all know about the "staph-infection" incident with Frank Mir. If he had staph infection a week before the fight, he should have pulled out. Fact is, Mir beat his ass standing.

This is just a response for the reasons you bolded. If you want to talk about why I dislike Nogueira, send me a PM or I'll give you my phone number, because I could talk about it all day







Schaub didn't KO Gonzaga. He fought an extremely disinterested and unmotivated fighter with quite possibly one of the worst mental games in the sport. Did you watch the fight? When Gonzaga actually decided to fight he WRECKED Schaub.

I wasn't really impressed with his victory over Cro Cop. He got a lucky shot in my opinion, and was down on my scorecards, and just about everyone else's. Cro Cop was beating his ass with his telegraphed shots.





It just makes me sad that there will be one of two outcomes to this fight.

A) Nogueira wins in Brazil, everyone gets excited...Yah yah yah.

B) Schaub once again beats an aging fighter and gets vaulted into contender status when he doesn't really even belong in the top 15 in my opinion.

With fights like Nate Diaz vs. Melvin Guillard, I know that neither guy was relevant at the time. So I enjoyed watching them beat eachother up.

I'll still probably order the PPV, but it's my least favorite fighter and a guy I have zero respect for fighting a guy who is a cocky, overrated tool in a potential title eliminator. Either way, I lose
Agree with many points you make (can't rep or I would) People love Nog because of his ability to take a beating and continue. He really isn't a very good sportsman by any means. I remember the Hendo incident vaguely but definitely remember the Brilz fight where he was too cool to shake his hand.

I don't hate the guy, but am also not a fan like I once was. He is definitely a legend of the game, I could never deny that. However, his heart and the accident he had when he was young I think sway people's opinion of him into forgetting he is kind of a dick.
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lol if schaub can barely beat a dwindling cro cop what makes you people think he's so decisively going to win vs nogueria?

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lol if schaub can barely beat a dwindling cro cop what makes you people think he's so decisively going to win vs nogueria?
Schaub hits hard. Nog's chin has been suspect lately (can't blame it after the beating it's taken in it's career). Schaub is constantly improving and is very hungry.

I think Nog has better odds than the bookies are giving him, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him win. I'm just saying thats why Schaub has a pretty good shot at getting a W.

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The only real question here is how much is Nogs chin gone? Schuab is green with power, he is perfeclty set to rock the old Nog and then try to swarm him only for Nog to recover and catch him rushing in wrecklessly. That said Nogs recovery time looked questionable against Cain and Mir so who knows. Its a bad fight betting wise, smart money is likely on Nog because of the odds though.




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Well he was on his death bed in the Mir fight and Cain hit him the hardest since the Herring head kick except Cain quickly capitalized while Herring foolishly let him off.

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I'm gonna be interested in seeing if Nog perhaps plays possum to lure Schaub in his guard? We've seen Schaub KO guys with one shot before, if Schaub believes he's hurt he better swarm asap.

I still think Nog is gonna be far too slow, far too immobile, and will have to stand with the younger, stronger, faster, and more explosive guy in Schaub.

Like him or not, Schaub's got some power in those hands.

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