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Anderson Silva 57 80.28%
Yushin Okami 14 19.72%
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Old 08-28-2011, 11:29 AM   #181 (permalink)
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So much for my "I told you so". No fun.

Anyway, bring on Sonnen.
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Old 08-28-2011, 11:39 AM   #182 (permalink)
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who honestly even expected anything different?
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Old 08-28-2011, 12:14 PM   #183 (permalink)
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Well...there's a lot of people who say it for the sake of it. Without properly analyzing the fights, stats, attributes, styles, and more importantly the history of the fighters. IE: You don't think Anderson has been thinking about this "loss" for the last five years or so. With his title, legacy, revenge, all on the line at his hometown he was going to put on a show. Guess what, Okami brought it to em. Okami dictated the fight in the first and realized he was at a stalemate then he got jarred in the final seconds and that was his welcoming present to BRAZIL and into "The Spider's" realm. That really turned the tides. Had that kick not landed Okami would have been confident still, I could see Chael in him especially with not touching gloves. I know Chael probably told em not to do it. Pretty disrespectful if you ask me and even after the fight Okami didn't really seem to acknowledge em just a sheepish nod of the head. That is what Anderson does to fighters; he makes them mortal.

I think now most see Anderson Silva for who he is and what he represents. IT'S ART AT ITS FINEST! HE TRULY DEFINES THE "ART" IN MARTIAL ARTS.

Don't be a surprised when they create a statue for em in Curitiba.
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Old 08-28-2011, 12:19 PM   #184 (permalink)
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I bet I am not the only one that can't wait to hear Chaels reaction to this.
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Well...there's a lot of people who say it for the sake of it. Without properly analyzing the fights, stats, attributes, styles, and more importantly the history of the fighters. IE: You don't think Anderson has been thinking about this "loss" for the last five years or so. With his title, legacy, revenge, all on the line at his hometown he was going to put on a show. Guess what, Okami brought it to em. Okami dictated the fight in the first and realized he was at a stalemate then he got jarred in the final seconds and that was his welcoming present to BRAZIL and into "The Spider's" realm. That really turned the tides. Had that kick not landed Okami would have been confident still, I could see Chael in him especially with not touching gloves. I know Chael probably told em not to do it. Pretty disrespectful if you ask me and even after the fight Okami didn't really seem to acknowledge em just a sheepish nod of the head. That is what Anderson does to fighters; he makes them mortal.

I think now most see Anderson Silva for who he is and what he represents. IT'S ART AT ITS FINEST! HE TRULY DEFINES THE "ART" IN MARTIAL ARTS.

Don't be a surprised when they create a statue for em in Curitiba.
They just don't like each other, it had nothing to do with Chael or Anderson breaking him down. Anderson has had ill will towards Okami since their first fight so the no touching of the gloves was partly because of Anderson as well not just Okami.

Even Noguiera refused to touch gloves with Hendo an Dan actually tried to touch gloves but Nog wasn't having any of it because he was robbed in their first fight.
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Okami was never thought of as a serious challenge and proved he's a solid top ten guy but nothing more.

I dont see anything out of character in this fight other than Silva didnt look good to me. He dominated and won convincingly but I felt he should have looked better.

I dont see him moving down in weight and a fight with GSP would be giving him a lot of advantages even at a catch weight. So I want to see him fight at 205. Lets see him take on Rua, Rampage, Machida Evens and Jones.
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Okami was never thought of as a serious challenge and proved he's a solid top ten guy but nothing more.

I dont see anything out of character in this fight other than Silva didnt look good to me. He dominated and won convincingly but I felt he should have looked better.

I dont see him moving down in weight and a fight with GSP would be giving him a lot of advantages even at a catch weight. So I want to see him fight at 205. Lets see him take on Rua, Rampage, Machida Evens and Jones.
Okami was a decent challenge that has proven himself worthy, unlike some previous challengers. He is a very skilled wrestler, his downfall was his dependency on clinching against the cage to get the TD. Whenever he went for that leg Silva pointed out to him that he has knees and that they hurt, which resulted in Okami abandoning his TDs and looking lost in there.
Silva looked very impressive, his striking as accurate as ever, landing jabs from the hip at will.

It is not possible for Silva to move down in weight, his age and size will not allow it, so a match with GSP would have to be at 180 or 185.

BTW Silva would never, ever fight Machida - period
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Old 08-28-2011, 03:14 PM   #188 (permalink)
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Anderson Silva is a genius.

It's not an entirely novel statement these days. Silva earned that status in his second fight with Rich Franklin, specifically at the moment when he ducked and dodged a punch-kick combo from the Ohioan with ease. He beat Franklin mentally long before the final sequence, the four-limbed barrage that mirrored the end of their first encounter.

He cemented the notion four months later in Columbus. I sat in attendance that night as Silva fought Dan Henderson in a unification of the UFC middleweight and Pride welterweight titles. After dropping the first round, Silva returned to his corner relaxed, unconcerned that he had all but gifted Henderson the first five minutes.

Sometime in the first two minutes of that second round, Silva jockeyed his hands. It's a tell. Like Bald Bull rolling his gloves or Piston Honda raising his eyebrows, Silva's hand game is his acknowledgement that he has you figured out. He has your timing down. He has your reactions down. You better figure something out because it's only a matter of time.

Henderson didn't make it out of the round.

Yushin Okami had his moment in the first round. Or, rather, Silva let him believe he had his moment. Okami was able to play his game, the clinch, for something in the neighborhood of two minutes. He even had Silva pressed up against the fence. Herb Dean, unlike referees in the majority of the undercard bouts, took a laissez-faire approach, affording champ and challenger to work out their differences on their own.

Okami couldn't make anything of the offering. Silva stifled his attempts at gaining dominant position. He shrugged off Okami's level change into a single-leg takedown. And just like that, he escaped and returned to distance.

Silva turned on beast mode quickly into the second round. He kept Okami at bay with jabs and movement. The challenger's window was closing fast.

Then Silva put his hands down. Silva took on the form of Roy Jones Jr., one of his heroes. He allowed Okami to throw unabated at his head. The jab that knocked Okami down came from his waist.

Silva probably could have finished there. There are few things as mentally damaging as your opponent clowning you with a jab with his hands firm at the waist. He allowed Okami back to his feet. He allowed Okami to stalk him backwards, hands still at his sides, the aura of Roy Jones and Muhammad Ali oozing from his posture, from his expression.

The counter right stole whatever was left of Okami's will to fight. He crumpled to that mat, immediately resorting to base instinct -- survival via fetal position. Silva established dominant position. The ensuing carnage was patient and powerful and knowing.
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Well played sir.
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