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Old 08-29-2011, 12:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Bustamante: ‘Toquinho’ Stopped Because Miller Told Him To

Could be true...who knows. One thing is for sure since there was no SOTN they both should be awarded FOTN!

Eleven months ago, Rousimar “Toquinho” Palhares’ decision to stop fighting mid-bout cost him dearly in a knockout loss to Nate Marquardt. Saturday night in Rio de Janeiro, history very nearly repeated itself.

According to the Brazilian middleweight’s trainer, however, Palhares’ actions in the first round of his UFC 134 contest with Dan Miller have been misinterpreted.

Unlike his September 2010 defeat at the hands of Marquardt -- which saw Palhares punched out after the submission specialist turned to referee Herb Dean and complained that Marquardt’s leg was slippery -- Brazilian Top Team leader Murilo Bustamante explained Sunday that Palhares’ premature celebration against Miller actually came as a result of mercy.

Saturday night at Rio’s HSBC Arena, a heavy right head kick from Palhares felled Miller with 40 seconds remaining in the opening frame. The dazed New Jerseyite covered up as Palhares connected with half a dozen punches from above before coolly striding away, his arms raised in victory. Palhares leapt atop the Octagon fence to soak in the adoration from his hometown crowd, but there was one problem: the referee -- Dean, coincidentally -- never called a stop to the bout.

“Just to clarify what happened during Toquinho’s fight,” Bustamante wrote on his personal Twitter account, “he told me that he stopped because his opponent said ‘stop, stop’ when he was punching him hard. Then, he stopped [hitting] him and thought that the fight was over and went to celebrate. Who can say now that ‘Toko’ isn’t a fair fighter? He is just too naive, but he has a big heart.”

Review of the fight video by Sherdog.com proved inconclusive: If Miller did verbally submit, it was drowned out on television by the roar of the Rio audience. But, as he beckoned Palhares down from the cage, referee Dean’s words were loud and clear: “I did not stop the fight. You have to keep fighting.”

And keep fighting they did. In a surprising turn, moments after touching gloves and resuming action, Toquinho found himself in a bad way, knocked down by a Miller combination. The Brazilian would regain his composure to finish the round with a takedown, though, and followed up with a dominant second period and a closer, but slower, third. Palhares wound up winning a lopsided unanimous decision with scores of 30-25, 30-27 and 29-27.

On Sunday, Bustamante offered no complaints about the non-stoppage, nor the extra 10 minutes of work his charge allegedly had to put in. However, the former UFC middleweight champion did take issue with the company naming a lightweight scrap between Edson Barboza and Ross Pearson the evening’s best bout.

“I think, as [with] everyone that watched the fight, that Toko should have won ‘Fight of the Night.’”
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Old 08-29-2011, 01:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd like to hear Miller's side of the story.
I initially thought that he thought that Herb stopped it when he was telling Miller to fight back, but if Miller said "stop. stop." then he (Miller) should have told the ref what happened and the fight should have been over. That's IF he actually told him to stop.
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I highly doubt Miller said stop. There are very few around that are tougher than the miller boys.
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I'm watching it right now with the volume turned up.

Someone does say: "STOP".

You can hear it.
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I just watched the ending again in slo-mo 5 times and I call bullshit, I saw nothing like that. Miller is tough as nails I doubt he would say stop over that.
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Listen with the volume turned up. You can hear someone say: "STOP".
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Listen with the volume turned up. You can hear someone say: "STOP".
Sounds interesting - will watch it loud. Palhares has atrocious English though, does he even know what that means? (seriously)
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Listen with the volume turned up. You can hear someone say: "STOP".
I hear "fight back" from Herb Dean, not "stop" from Miller
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Audio rip.

http://yourlisten.com/channel/conten...65/paul harris

You can hear it when the progress bar gets near the n on the yourlisten.com logo.

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This is exactly what I heard when I rewatched the incident over and over again. It clearly sounds like someone is yelling "stop" once during that onslaught, and immediatly after Palhares walks away with his hands raised.

Ofc Palhares should have waited for Dean to pull him away, but this at least explains why he thought he had won.


I really like and respect Dan Miller as a fighter and person, but I find his reaction after Palhares walks a way a bit suspicious. He gets up and walks towards the fence, his whole bodylanguage signals that he has accepted defeat. If he hadn't verbally tapped, I just cant understand why he didn't argue the "decision" or go after Palhares straight away. Only after Dean made it clear the fight wasn't over did he run over to engage.

Very tough fight though. Was hoping for Miller, and second round was painful to watch.
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