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Old 08-29-2011, 04:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You don't get a face like that by KO'ing somebody quickly, you get it by tormenting somebody for 25 minutes. It's like GSP is a monster, actually he doesn't want to finish the fight, he wants to inflict moar pain and what better way to do it than bitch your opponents around until all the rounds are over.
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Diaz isn't well rounded. He has decent stand up, ok submissions but is weak when it comes to wrestling.
Besides kicks and wreslting tell me something else he lacks?

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Seems pretty well rounded to me.

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Why do people keep saying this? His last two fights barely saw the ground... He didn't exactly just lay on top of Hardy. He got the best of Alves in the striking department and he beat up BJ bad enough for his corner to throw in the towel.....

Please don't confuse his lack of finishing a fight with laying on a guy or dry humping him.
Well I can't tell you why "people" are saying it, but I can tell why I said it...mainly that it's GSP greatest strength and Diaz's greatest weakness. Diaz greatest strength arguably is in the stand-up, so why would GSP choose to fight him there? My comment isn't based on GSP's last couple of fights, it's based on his next title defense and what he is likely to do against the contender.
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Why do people keep saying this? His last two fights barely saw the ground...
Because Shields had a chance to submit him, so GSP wouldn't go there. He takes down the strikers, and jabs the wrestlers. Its a strategy that works. He'll take down Diaz all night, and i'll be wanting to punch the screen, but what can you do.
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:24 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Those comparisons are ridiculous. Nick is going to be the most well rounded aggressive fighter GSP has faced in a very long time. He has the best chance of winning due to his willingness to put himself in danger for the reward.

I'm not saying he'll win but he's definitely the most dangerous person GSP has faced in awhile. We might even get to see GSP finish someone since Nick isn't afraid to put himself out there like that.



Shields has nowhere near the level of aggression that Nick does. Shields also has nowhere and I mean nowhere near the cardio level Nick has. They're completely different fighters. Shields might have more technical ability in the gym but Diaz has more tools to put those abilities to use in a fight.
I still say Diaz's cardio training isn't that applicable in MMA or fighting in general. He trains for triathlons and other long distance situations. As far as fighting goes.. that's sort of just a waste of time. In fighting you need explosive energy and fast recovery...
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Diaz is a fighting fans favourite. If you like watching fights, you love Nick Diaz. He is the definition of a born fighter.

He had his hands by his waist when he was fighting Paul Daley for christs sake. Literally just stood in font of Paul with his hands down, taunting him. He shouldn't be doing things like that against striker's like Daley, but he does. How can you not love Diaz?

GSP for a few years now has been incredibly boring to watch and seems to have a major lack of killer instinct.

People see this playing safe strategy as an indication that GSP has evolved and improved over the years, I actually see it as the opposite. I think Pierre is mentally weak and that his major lack of self confidence and killer instinct is going to cost him some day. What better fighter to expose those particular holes than Nick Diaz himself?
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GSP will make Diaz look like he's in his first amateur fight. Diaz is not well rounded, he has good bjj but not good enough to sub GSP from his back. Other than that he has good cardio and chin but that won't help him.
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I love GSP, him BJ Penn and Dan Henderson have always been my favorite fighters for years, and I think Diaz is going to win. Made two sig bets and bet cash with friends that GSP won't win the fight. I want GSP to win but just have a feeling diaz will make it a hard ugly fight for GSP and will either TKO him with his rapid punches or sub him within 3 rounds.
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Well I can't tell you why "people" are saying it, but I can tell why I said it...mainly that it's GSP greatest strength and Diaz's greatest weakness. Diaz greatest strength arguably is in the stand-up, so why would GSP choose to fight him there? My comment isn't based on GSP's last couple of fights, it's based on his next title defense and what he is likely to do against the contender.
He might surprise you.... Everyone thought he'd try to sit on Alves but he did what he needed to do on his feet.


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Because Shields had a chance to submit him, so GSP wouldn't go there. He takes down the strikers, and jabs the wrestlers. Its a strategy that works. He'll take down Diaz all night, and i'll be wanting to punch the screen, but what can you do.
I completely agree.. and that's a very nice attribute to have. My confusion more comes from the individuals who accuse him of lay n pray. He's not the absolute most active guy on the ground.... but in the BJ fight and in the Hardy fight, he definitely working for it.
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I still say Diaz's cardio training isn't that applicable in MMA or fighting in general. He trains for triathlons and other long distance situations. As far as fighting goes.. that's sort of just a waste of time. In fighting you need explosive energy and fast recovery...
What makes you say that? Nick has shown top notch cardio in all of his fights as well as fast recovery. He's been rocked repeatedly and still kept his pace. That, to me, is a sign of amazing cardio.

If Nick doesn't have good cardio, who the hell does?
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GSP will tak Diaz down, i would be shock if he boxes with him.
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