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Intermission 08-29-2011 04:35 PM

The GSP HATE train!
 
Needs to stop, its so stupid. If you don't like the guy that's fine but Nick Diaz has no chance what so ever against GSP.

Miller
Trigg
Sherk
BJ x2
Hughes x2
Koscheck x2
Fitch
Serra
Alves
Hardy
Shields

Okay lets look at this, does Diaz have better BJJ then Shields? No, he doesn't even have better wrestling than him. Does he have better stand up then Alves? No. How about his triathlon cardio, surely its better then Sherks cardio right? Wrong. Does he hit harder then Hardy, no. Is his guard more active then BJ's? No. How about his wrestling? Better then Hughes, Serra, Fitch, Koshcheck? No. His BJJ isn't even better than Millers. How about technical striking, better then BJ? NO!

I could make the same exact list for Condit too. GSP won't EVER lose again at WW, he needs to move up to MW because the same thing happens before EVERY GSP fight. Ill admit I even had a feelings Shields could catch him with a sub, look how that turned out.

Remember the Alves fight? He tore his hamstring in the first or second and still dominated that fight.

Remember these pictures?





Nick Diaz won't be any different. I am not even a fanboy of GSP either, I am a realist. I may be a Cruz fanboy though :)

Soakked 08-29-2011 04:41 PM

Nick Diaz will be the most well rounded fighter that GSP has fought since BJ Penn. All the guys you listed have obvious strengths which are their bread and butter, take that away and they aren't as good. Nick can scrap, brawl, or pick you apart, submit you, out work you, out heart you. He's a jack of all trades type of guy.

Still think GSP will win via dry hump, but Diaz has a better chance to win then Shields that's for sure.

LL 08-29-2011 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soakked (Post 1462795)
Nick Diaz will be the most well rounded fighter that GSP has fought since BJ Penn. All the guys you listed have obviously strengths which are their bread and butter, take that away and they aren't as good. Nick can scrap, brawl, or pick you apart, submit you, out work you, out heart you. He's a jack of all trades type of guy.

Still think GSP will win via dry hump, but Diaz has a better chance to win then Shields that's for sure.

The thing is Diaz has one area where he lacks at, and it's the most important aspect of MMA; wrestling.

He might take a round or two, he'll probably rough GSP's face up a little and talk about how he won the fight but at the end of the day he's gonna lose the Mixed Martial Arts competition, GSP isn't some scrub on the ground this is gonna be a wrestling clinic and while others will likely call it boring, I can't wait to see GSP systematically shut Diaz down and dominate him. It's beautiful to watch imo.

marcthegame 08-29-2011 04:49 PM

I don't think diaz will win, but i hope he does. However what boggles my mind is you see those two pictures you posted? It looks like total destruction, however it pisses me off the guy does not finish or take chances.

DJ Syko 08-29-2011 05:00 PM

All Aboard CHOO!! CHOO!!

Wait a minute, this isnt a hate train, i was deceived :(.

only joking, i dont really hate GSP i just hate all his delusional fans.

Dan0 08-29-2011 05:00 PM

The only way Nick takes this is a submission from his back. I don't know if he'll get the better of the stand up, but if he does, GSP takes him down immediately, because Nick is not the man, who will knock a fighter out with one blow.

GSP's top game is the main thing in this fight, his takedown is enough to neutralize Nick's stand up.

Best case scenario is GSP winning the stand up and not having to go to the ground, which is quite possible. This is not a popular opinion, but I really think that Nick's stand up is too wild for GSP's tight boxing.

420atalon 08-29-2011 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soakked (Post 1462795)
Nick Diaz will be the most well rounded fighter that GSP has fought since BJ Penn. All the guys you listed have obviously strengths which are their bread and butter, take that away and they aren't as good. Nick can scrap, brawl, or pick you apart, submit you, out work you, out heart you. He's a jack of all trades type of guy.

Still think GSP will win via dry hump, but Diaz has a better chance to win then Shields that's for sure.

Diaz isn't well rounded. He has decent stand up, ok submissions but is weak when it comes to wrestling.

GSP is going to take Diaz down, beat the crap out of him on the ground and I wouldn't be surprised if he finishes him.

Shields is better then Diaz, that is why when in SF Shields fought at MW while Diaz fought at WW.

This fight is going to go exactly like Rory Macdonald vs Nate Diaz.

MikeHawk 08-29-2011 05:07 PM

Those comparisons are ridiculous. Nick is going to be the most well rounded aggressive fighter GSP has faced in a very long time. He has the best chance of winning due to his willingness to put himself in danger for the reward.

I'm not saying he'll win but he's definitely the most dangerous person GSP has faced in awhile. We might even get to see GSP finish someone since Nick isn't afraid to put himself out there like that.

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Originally Posted by 420atalon (Post 1462809)
Diaz isn't well rounded. He has decent stand up, ok submissions but is weak when it comes to wrestling.

GSP is going to take Diaz down, beat the crap out of him on the ground and I wouldn't be surprised if he finishes him.

Shields is better then Diaz, that is why when in SF Shields fought at MW while Diaz fought at WW.

This fight is going to go exactly like Rory Macdonald vs Nate Diaz.

Shields has nowhere near the level of aggression that Nick does. Shields also has nowhere and I mean nowhere near the cardio level Nick has. They're completely different fighters. Shields might have more technical ability in the gym but Diaz has more tools to put those abilities to use in a fight.

paulfromtulsa 08-29-2011 05:08 PM

im aboard the hate train. i will get off when they feed him to anderson

amoosenamedhank 08-29-2011 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soakked (Post 1462795)
Nick Diaz will be the most well rounded fighter that GSP has fought since BJ Penn. All the guys you listed have obviously strengths which are their bread and butter, take that away and they aren't as good. Nick can scrap, brawl, or pick you apart, submit you, out work you, out heart you. He's a jack of all trades type of guy.

Still think GSP will win via dry hump, but Diaz has a better chance to win then Shields that's for sure.

Why do people keep saying this? His last two fights barely saw the ground... He didn't exactly just lay on top of Hardy. He got the best of Alves in the striking department and he beat up BJ bad enough for his corner to throw in the towel..... :confused03:

Please don't confuse his lack of finishing a fight with laying on a guy or dry humping him. :bye02:


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