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Old 08-30-2011, 04:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well they both look alike in stance and have good head movement but to me the strikes are not really the same. Different hands one's a jab and one's a right bla bla.
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I wonder why the OP didn't post a GIF of the final knock down of Okami? That was exactly like Ali's anchor punch, although Silva side stepped more, it was still a right to an opponent moving forward with a combo. Either way, mad mad skill to beable to pull that off.
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Well they both look alike in stance and have good head movement but to me the strikes are not really the same. Different hands one's a jab and one's a right bla bla.
^ My thought when I read the article. There is another difference: Ali hit Liston after the latter threw his punch, while Silva hit Okami right when the latter was about to punch (here's also a little inaccuracy in the article, Okami did have forward momentum as he started his motion to punch).
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:45 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Well they both look alike in stance and have good head movement but to me the strikes are not really the same. Different hands one's a jab and one's a right bla bla.
The punch isn't thrown in a way where it would matter much how your feet are set. The Forrest one is basically exactly the same except Andy doesn't quite have his rear leg set which doesn't matter since it doesn't utilize any kind of torque or follow through. The Okami one is ******* ridiculous and different in execution but conceptually it is the same punch.

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^ My thought when I read the article. There is another difference: Ali hit Liston after the latter threw his punch, while Silva hit Okami right when the latter was about to punch (here's also a little inaccuracy in the article, Okami did have forward momentum as he started his motion to punch).
It looks that way but he actually is throwing it over a right hand Okami was throwing. When there is a big difference in hand speed counter punches can look like they got off first. In MMA Carwin/JDS is a good example of this.

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Really really cool. The Okami hit doesn't look quite the same to me, but he goes down all the same. One of Silva's idols has always been Ali, so this really doesn't surprise me much.
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I heard Steven Segal taught Ali how to throw that punch. Over the years, Segal refined it then recently taught Anderson.
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I'm confident Anderson bases it on Ali but like all things has refined it for MMA.

I find it pretty funny that the most elite MMA fighters in the world stand in front of Anderson when he has his arms at his sides and watch those fighters think "Well....shit..." Anderson is a fantastic snake-charmer... He can get almost any style of fighter to straight up box with him.
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I'm confident Anderson bases it on Ali but like all things has refined it for MMA.

I find it pretty funny that the most elite MMA fighters in the world stand in front of Anderson when he has his arms at his sides and watch those fighters think "Well....shit..." Anderson is a fantastic snake-charmer... He can get almost any style of fighter to straight up box with him.
they probably think arms down go for his head, besides, with his arms down he'd probably stuff the take down if you went for it

back on topic. that's a crazy counter and it's basically the same punch as ali's
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