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post #11 of 34 (permalink) Old 08-30-2011, 09:04 PM
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I want to see Rampage vs Shogun II.

Sonnen vs Silva II.



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post #12 of 34 (permalink) Old 08-30-2011, 10:45 PM Thread Starter
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I love the '100%' Shogun phrase all his fanboys cling to. Whenever he wins, he's 100% and whenever he loses, he's injured.
I'm not a fanboy, but I don't think anyone can put it off as coincidence that his two big losses in the UFC against Forrest and Jones came while he was hurt/coming off knee surgery and a layoff.

He comes off a surgery and layoff and barely finishes Coleman and looks gassed, next fight he KO's Liddell and goes on to win the belt after that. He hurts his knee again and has surgery and comes back and loses to Jones whom he probably wouldn't of beaten anyway, but he looked gassed and out of shape. Next fight he rips through Griffin.

I think it's pretty valid.

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He beat Machida with the knee injury so I don't see how his knee being fully healed would make him lose to Bones. He just doesn't train right. He has most likely always had terrible cardio his pride fights just almost never made it out of the first.
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He beat Machida with the knee injury so I don't see how his knee being fully healed would make him lose to Bones. He just doesn't train right. He has most likely always had terrible cardio his pride fights just almost never made it out of the first.
He injured it during the fight not before, so the injury had zero effect on his cardio or training.
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Anderson's style is tailor made for Shogun's berserker style. Unlike Machida, who has a different style of elusiveness, Anderson stays in the pocket, dodges strikes, uses head movement with feints, and counters. I think 100% Shogun, or whatever 100% Shogun is these days, would get picked apart. This match wouldn't last longer than a round especially if Shogun gets overly aggressive. If it goes past the first round, Shogun's chances to win diminishes each round.
On the other hand Shogun has shown that he can be a very patient fighter if required, which was demonstrated in his first fight against Machida. He can sit back, pick his shots and counter if he wants to, he doesn't always have to go berzerker mode on people. I think Anderson would still be the favourite but Shogun has the tools to give him one hell of a fight.
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I'm not a fanboy, but I don't think anyone can put it off as coincidence that his two big losses in the UFC against Forrest and Jones came while he was hurt/coming off knee surgery and a layoff.

He comes off a surgery and layoff and barely finishes Coleman and looks gassed, next fight he KO's Liddell and goes on to win the belt after that. He hurts his knee again and has surgery and comes back and loses to Jones whom he probably wouldn't of beaten anyway, but he looked gassed and out of shape. Next fight he rips through Griffin.

I think it's pretty valid.
Always an excuse...guarentee his next loss will be followed with 10 threads full of excuses. Actually most of his fights are preceded with threads full of them just in case he loses, his fanboys will say" I told you he was injured or didn't look like himself"

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I'll be honest i might be only a few who is disappointing with shogun. He was amazing in pride but it seems in the ufc he is just an average fighter. The flash and flare is gone, like i don't see anything that sticks out with him anymore or sets him apart from other elite fighters.

Its fair to say anderson is on another level that shogun. The only thing that interests me about this fight is would silva drop his hands and fight shogun?
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Silva will easily break Shogun in every aspect of the fight.

Plus, Shogun doesn’t deserve currently such a fight!

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Silva will easily break Shogun in every aspect of the fight.

Plus, Shogun doesn’t deserve currently such a fight!
call it crazy but when he was champ people wanted this fight. Remember after ufc 112 Dana said Silva does not deserve to fight GSP. At this moment i feel GSP does not deserve to fight silva, i want to see silva fight sonnen,jones, or a hw.
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Wow, I expected people to favour Silva, and rightfully so. However I expected people to at least give Shogun a decent chance. Maybe the fight wouldn't be as close as I think it would be.
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