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Old 09-07-2011, 06:41 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Socially inept is the right term sadly. These guys are "hood" and aren't accustomed to the spotlight. But what boggles my mind is he was the SF champ so he had the same obligations did he not...

How can somebody throw away his career like that on a silver platter. We all wanted to see this fight although I knew GSP would win 99%. He's far too strong for Nick.

Condit is an excellent replacement, but it's sad...just plain sad to see athletes make the wrong decisions.

All he had to do was make a televised appearance, pre-taped, or send his manager Cesar Gracie at WORST or shit put him on phone conference. I think I'm pissed cuz like what Cesar Gracie said...all MMA athletes fight to put food on their table and spend their entire lives chasing this dream and he throws it all away.
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Old 09-07-2011, 06:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Having had issues with social anxiety myself i can totally understand and sympathise with Diaz. Dana White should have cut him some slack and let the kid fight.
I think if Nick had at least picked up the phone and talked to Dana man to man he would have cut him a bit more slack.
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Nick fits the description of Aspberger's Syndrome to an absolute tee.
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I think if Nick had at least picked up the phone and talked to Dana man to man he would have cut him a bit more slack.
Thats prolly very true, though sometimes you do completely shut yourself away from the outside world. But yeah, as soon as the fight was announced he should have told Dana that this could be a possibility. Dana may then have set up a video feed from Diaz instead?
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Thats prolly very true, though sometimes you do completely shut yourself away from the outside world. But yeah, as soon as the fight was announced he should have told Dana that this could be a possibility. Dana may then have set up a video feed from Diaz instead?
I'm empathetic to his condition, but sneaking out the back door when your friend and manager comes to talk to you is just childish.
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Nick Diaz did some pretty stupid things threw out his career like starting 2 riots, smoking pot, coming in 9 pounds overweight. But this really takes the ******* cake. How can one fighter be such a colossal ****-up?

Nick Diaz really needs to grow up. Avoiding your boss and manager was not the way to do things. If he keeps acting like this he'll be going over to BAMMA just like Paul Daley and Nate Marquardt.
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If he actually has Social Anxiety Disorder, which it appears he does from the article, then I think Dana White would be wrong and inconsiderate to cut him from the UFC.
Mental illness is just as legitimate as any other illness and should be treated as such, and it would make sense that Diaz would have debilitating anxiety when he has to give the biggest press conference for the biggest fight against the biggest fighter of his LIFE.
I'm sure some people are thinking "well if he's so anxious then how does he get in a cage and fight" but fighting is not a social activity and as such it has no significant relevance to social anxiety disorder. In fact, one could argue that fighting is inherently an ANTI-social activity.

Furthermore, this isn't the first time we've seen something like this. Old NFL fans like myself will tell you that Ricky Williams also had social anxiety disorder; he would give interviews and press conferences with his helmet on because he would get so afraid of talking but that didnt stop him from being a monster on the field. Unfortunately, like Diaz, his anxiety hurt his career by leading him to retire prematurely (and temporarily) from football and also "self-medicate" with constant marijuana usage.
This sums it up.

Unless you have or have had an anxiety disorder, it's hard to formulate a legit opinion on why Nick is acting this way. I knew little about them before I started school and probably would have had an ignorant opinion on the matter given Diaz' reputation...but they genuinely can cripple a person's ability to functional normally under certain conditions (eg. large crowds). It could lead to a panic/anxiety attack as well, from which i've heard from a friend's cousin that it feels like youre dying because you can't breathe.

Hope Nick seeks some kind of help, he's a talented dude and i'd like to see him on the UFC roster.
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I'm empathetic to his condition, but sneaking out the back door when your friend and manager comes to talk to you is just childish.
Maybe he's just THAT embarrassed about the whole situation. Maybe he hasn't actually come to terms with him having some sort of mental disorder and feels ashamed of it.

Imagine having to admit to Dana and the rest of the world that you can't attend press conferences because you're too anxious and "scared".

I know, he should just man up and talk it through, but it's easier said than done. We don't know the full details.
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Nick fits the description of Aspberger's Syndrome to an absolute tee.
Don't the majority or those with ASD/PDD lack solid coordination/motor skills? Although the other symptoms he seems to have no doubt.
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Don't the majority or those with ASD/PDD lack solid coordination/motor skills? Although the other symptoms he seems to have no doubt.
Not sure. This is what I got off wikipedia.
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The lack of demonstrated empathy is possibly the most dysfunctional aspect of Asperger syndrome.[4] Individuals with AS experience difficulties in basic elements of social interaction, which may include a failure to develop friendships or to seek shared enjoyments or achievements with others (for example, showing others objects of interest), a lack of social or emotional reciprocity, and impaired nonverbal behaviors in areas such as eye contact, facial expression, posture, and gesture.[3]

People with AS may not be as withdrawn around others as those with other, more debilitating, forms of autism; they approach others, even if awkwardly. For example, a person with AS may engage in a one-sided, long-winded speech about a favorite topic, while misunderstanding or not recognizing the listener's feelings or reactions, such as a need for privacy or haste to leave.[7] This social awkwardness has been called "active but odd".[3] This failure to react appropriately to social interaction may appear as disregard for other people's feelings, and may come across as insensitive.[7] However, not all individuals with AS will approach others. Some of them may even display selective mutism, speaking not at all to most people and excessively to specific people. Some may choose to talk only to people they like.[26]

The cognitive ability of children with AS often allows them to articulate social norms in a laboratory context,[3] where they may be able to show a theoretical understanding of other people's emotions; however, they typically have difficulty acting on this knowledge in fluid, real-life situations.[7] People with AS may analyze and distill their observations of social interaction into rigid behavioral guidelines, and apply these rules in awkward ways, such as forced eye contact, resulting in a demeanor that appears rigid or socially naive. Childhood desire for companionship can become numbed through a history of failed social encounters.[3]


The long winded one-sided speech particularly defined Nick Diaz, watching an interview with that guy is nuts, he just rambles on about nothing.


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People with Asperger syndrome often display behavior, interests, and activities that are restricted and repetitive and are sometimes abnormally intense or focused. They may stick to inflexible routines, move in stereotyped and repetitive ways, or preoccupy themselves with parts of objects.[24]

Pursuit of specific and narrow areas of interest is one of the most striking features of AS.[3] Individuals with AS may collect volumes of detailed information on a relatively narrow topic such as weather data or star names, without necessarily having genuine understanding of the broader topic.[3][7] For example, a child might memorize camera model numbers while caring little about photography.[3] This behavior is usually apparent by grade school, typically age 5 or 6 in the United States.[3] Although these special interests may change from time to time, they typically become more unusual and narrowly focused, and often dominate social interaction so much that the entire family may become immersed. Because narrow topics often capture the interest of children, this symptom may go unrecognized.[7]

Stereotyped and repetitive motor behaviors are a core part of the diagnosis of AS and other ASDs.[30] They include hand movements such as flapping or twisting, and complex whole-body movements.[24] These are typically repeated in longer bursts and look more voluntary or ritualistic than tics, which are usually faster, less rhythmical and less often symmetrical.[31]
All Nick Diaz does is train and run triathelons. That's it.


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Although individuals with Asperger syndrome acquire language skills without significant general delay and their speech typically lacks significant abnormalities, language acquisition and use is often atypical.[7] Abnormalities include verbosity, abrupt transitions, literal interpretations and miscomprehension of nuance, use of metaphor meaningful only to the speaker, auditory perception deficits, unusually pedantic, formal or idiosyncratic speech, and oddities in loudness, pitch, intonation, prosody, and rhythm.[3]

Three aspects of communication patterns are of clinical interest: poor prosody, tangential and circumstantial speech, and marked verbosity. Although inflection and intonation may be less rigid or monotonic than in autism, people with AS often have a limited range of intonation: speech may be unusually fast, jerky or loud. Speech may convey a sense of incoherence; the conversational style often includes monologues about topics that bore the listener, fails to provide context for comments, or fails to suppress internal thoughts. Individuals with AS may fail to monitor whether the listener is interested or engaged in the conversation. The speaker's conclusion or point may never be made, and attempts by the listener to elaborate on the speech's content or logic, or to shift to related topics, are often unsuccessful.[7]

Children with AS may have an unusually sophisticated vocabulary at a young age and have been colloquially called "little professors", but have difficulty understanding figurative language and tend to use language literally.[3] Children with AS appear to have particular weaknesses in areas of nonliteral language that include humor, irony, and teasing. Although individuals with AS usually understand the cognitive basis of humor, they seem to lack understanding of the intent of humor to share enjoyment with others.[15] Despite strong evidence of impaired humor appreciation, anecdotal reports of humor in individuals with AS seem to challenge some psychological theories of AS and autism.[32] According to the Adult Asperger Assessment (AAA) diagnostic test, a lack of interest in fiction and the positive preference towards non-fiction is common among adults with the disorder.[33]
See Nick Diaz's rantings on being the most underpaid overpaid fighter.

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Individuals with Asperger syndrome may have signs or symptoms that are independent of the diagnosis, but can affect the individual or the family.[34] These include differences in perception and problems with motor skills, sleep, and emotions.

Individuals with AS often have excellent auditory and visual perception.[35] Children with ASD often demonstrate enhanced perception of small changes in patterns such as arrangements of objects or well-known images; typically this is domain-specific and involves processing of fine-grained features.[36] Conversely, compared to individuals with high-functioning autism, individuals with AS have deficits in some tasks involving visual-spatial perception, auditory perception, or visual memory.[3] Many accounts of individuals with AS and ASD report other unusual sensory and perceptual skills and experiences. They may be unusually sensitive or insensitive to sound, light, and other stimuli;[37] these sensory responses are found in other developmental disorders and are not specific to AS or to ASD. There is little support for increased fight-or-flight response or failure of habituation in autism; there is more evidence of decreased responsiveness to sensory stimuli, although several studies show no differences.[38]

Hans Asperger's initial accounts[3] and other diagnostic schemes[39] include descriptions of physical clumsiness. Children with AS may be delayed in acquiring skills requiring motor dexterity, such as riding a bicycle or opening a jar, and may seem to move awkwardly or feel "uncomfortable in their own skin". They may be poorly coordinated, or have an odd or bouncy gait or posture, poor handwriting, or problems with visual-motor integration.[3][7] They may show problems with proprioception (sensation of body position) on measures of apraxia (motor planning disorder), balance, tandem gait, and finger-thumb apposition. There is no evidence that these motor skills problems differentiate AS from other high-functioning ASDs.[3]

Children with AS are more likely to have sleep problems, including difficulty in falling asleep, frequent nocturnal awakenings, and early morning awakenings.[40][41] AS is also associated with high levels of alexithymia, which is difficulty in identifying and describing one's emotions.[42] Although AS, lower sleep quality, and alexithymia are associated, their causal relationship is unclear.[41]

As with other forms of ASD, parents of children with AS have higher levels of stress

And quite frankly, the way he punches and moves, his coordination does look a little....off.
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