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post #41 of 50 (permalink) Old 09-20-2011, 02:27 PM
 
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Here in Denmark we get it free on cable (Cable package costs around 40-50 bucks a month though), it airs live from 3AM and then also airs sunday night at 9PM... I've had the cable subscription for a long time, but might have to give it up soon due to lack of money - which always sucks... Don't know what to do then, since I really would prefer to watch legally and will do so until I have no options left




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That could also be because the networks the UFC is working with in the UK have negotiated a semi-exclusive contract for the time being.
After also checking the UFC website to watch on UFC.tv, theres a similar message:

This event is blacked out in the UK, Ireland, Greece, and Italy. Transmisión en VIVO disponible 100% en Español.

Doesnt leave UK fans much choice if things do switch to PPV. Maybe its problems like this which attribute to alot of torrenting and other illegal viewing.
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After also checking the UFC website to watch on UFC.tv, theres a similar message:

This event is blacked out in the UK, Ireland, Greece, and Italy. Transmisión en VIVO disponible 100% en Español.

Doesnt leave UK fans much choice if things do switch to PPV. Maybe its problems like this which attribute to alot of torrenting and other illegal viewing.
If ESPN or SKY or whatever cable network is already airing the event, the UFC may have had to agree to make them the exclusive providers. I strongly believe if they went to a PPV model in the UK they'd give the same options to watch it with UFC and it's paid partners like Yahoo.

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Is this a legal stream and what are its costs?



But isnt the whole "european events are free to air in the US" because they know the Americans wont buy the PPV because of the time its shown at? And thats also why they have weak cards here?

I'd have no qualms in paying copious amounts of money to watch a PPV if it didnt mean having to stay up til 5-6am. Some folk have kids and simply cant justify doing that.
not all of them are. there have been a few tape delay PPV's that happened at like 10am here in the states and didnt air till later. the Abu Dabi PPV being the most recent one. and so i had to stay away from any sports news site or channel all day.

and for money wise, i pay $55 for the HD version of the fights with taxes it comes to about $60. and say there are 13 PPV events a year that $880 per year in PPV. plus i still have to pay a monthly cable bill on top of it. cable, internet and phone, i get pretty much all channels, is about $160 a month not including the PPV's. so when it comes to complaining about prices.... i dont care really lol.


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i dont think its fair or unfair, its BS IMO though...who the hell would pay to watch an event the day after? or have to be up until 6am to watch it? thats ludocris, they should give you the option to download the PPV in HD quality at UFC.com for a cheaper price (much cheaper) since you're also going to watch on sunday anyway

or they should just make the PPV cheaper there, then ppl can tape it and watch it the next day, 50% off would be pretty good

if zuffa doesnt want to cooperate and try and negotiate better deals with other places in the world then they have to be ready to accept that certain ppl love their product but are suggested to unreasonable situations so they will start to stream/download their events illegaly
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HBO airs their PPVs for free after the fights, so if its delayed for other markets, don't see why they necessarily have to pay. As far as US market goes, getting reamed is part of the job.
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Portugal here. I just go to sleep on saturday, wake up on sunday and download the event. Pretty simple.
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Portugal here. I just go to sleep on saturday, wake up on sunday and download the event. Pretty simple.
Is that because there is no feasible legal way of watching it? Or just because you can watch it for free that way?
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I think the UK fans should have to pay. Albeit the timing makes it horribly inconvenient so I don't believe charging the full value we pay in North America is fair either. A discounted rate of like $19 American seems fair to me but it would hinder the sports growth in the UK so there is no easy answer.




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I think the UK fans should have to pay. Albeit the timing makes it horribly inconvenient so I don't believe charging the full value we pay in North America is fair either. A discounted rate of like $19 American seems fair to me but it would hinder the sports growth in the UK so there is no easy answer.
Best answer so far. I can't over how many people justify stealing (streaming) due to time or money constraints. If it doesn't show at a reasonable hour then you can't watch it. If you can't afford it, you can't watch it. Pretty simple.

While i think a good option is having a repeat the next day (as some people mentioned) it's not the same as watching it live. Perhaps a discounted price is a solid option. Though I get to watch them all at a somewhat reasonable hour, I still pay $60 (not HD) after taxes for each one. I order every single one with a few friends and we split the cost. I can't agree that something should be free for a group of people because it's not convenient for them. If Dream was putting on Pride type cards and they were available on PPV, I would be more than willing to fork over $60 AND stay up late to watch it. That's because I really love this sport. I do it for the K-1 finals almost every december.

Since I'm in London right now, could anyone from the UK tell me if they find this reasonable: offer the PPV at the live time and on Sunday starting at 18:00 for 20 pounds. Get a few friends together and it's pocket change for each. May not be live (or it is and really early in the AM), but at least it's discounted.
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