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post #21 of 55 (permalink) Old 07-11-2006, 12:10 AM
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Finally the poll doesn't lie. Good call herb. I would be furious if herb quit or fired herb.
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I would say herb is the 2nd best ref in the ufc obviously big john is 1st
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post #23 of 55 (permalink) Old 07-11-2006, 03:06 AM
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^are you madd....haha, herb blows and he knows it, remember him stoppin the Frank Mir/Tim Sylvia title fight he stopped early, sure Tim's arm was broken but nowhere in the rules does it say if your arm is broken fight is over, there was huge controversy after that call, herb thought people were gonna beat his ass on his way outta the ring he said in Real Fighter Mag...

but anyway DAT did sum it up, I concur, but in no way, should Tito fight Chuck when/if Chuck beats Sobral, Silva, did Tito give Chuck a title shot? Nope. Now I know we all say be the bigger man but nah, not this one. Tito is a lil girl, no one can say otherwise, he does has the world's greatest work ethic but he is still the world's most immature person. I know Chuck prolly wants to kick Tito's ass again and he will if it happens but there's other ppl he wants to take care of, like Rampage first of all... I can't see Dana denying him that since Dana always asks Chuck who he wants, and if they're available, he gets him, read the interviews......
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The referees are there to look out for the well being of the fighters. Tim Sylvia had his arm broken and it would have been worse had Herb Dean not jumped in and stopped it! The same goes for Shamrock! Shamrock had a snoball's chance in hell of winning anyway and he would have been a vegetable if Herb Dean didn't jump in!
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The referees are there to look out for the well being of the fighters. Tim Sylvia had his arm broken and it would have been worse had Herb Dean not jumped in and stopped it! The same goes for Shamrock! Shamrock had a snoball's chance in hell of winning anyway and he would have been a vegetable if Herb Dean didn't jump in!
i think so too, herb dean did the right thing, come on 5 or 6 elbows unaswered? i think it should definately have been stopped, ken shamrock didnt even do anything, maybe just a few seconds more and we would have found out.
it was a bit disappointing because i was so looking forward to a long fight.
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The referees are there to look out for the well being of the fighters. Tim Sylvia had his arm broken and it would have been worse had Herb Dean not jumped in and stopped it! The same goes for Shamrock! Shamrock had a snoball's chance in hell of winning anyway and he would have been a vegetable if Herb Dean didn't jump in!
The adrenaline was pumping so hard for Sylvia that day that he didn't even see the 'pop' in his forearm that STILL haunts me to this day. Doesn't make that a bad call (they are people after all) and imo Shamrock might not have been out for long but he was out for a few seconds with no defense, end of story.

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that call was bull shit. i understand that ken was in a bas position BUT the call was stupid reson been it was tito trowing the elbows and he isnt known for his killer elbows now is he if it was tanner or david the crow thowin the elbows then fine plus the whole thing happend so fast the ref didnt give shamrock time to recover shammy probebly didnt realise what was happening he was not hurt one bit and quite frankly im pisses off with the bull shit calls as of late the ed herman fight now this whats happening EVEN tito knew it was a bad call

come on ref give some god dam lee way look at the chuck vs vernon white the WERE many times that fight could have been stopped chuck ponded on him so many times but big jhon gave vernon a chance to recover herb deen didnt even give shamrock a chance to recover im discusted with the call shamrock cant seem to get a break,

LETS RECAP HIS LAST FEW FIGTS

he fights tito the best 205 in ufc with a ****ed up knee and losses
he fights franklin and slips twice allowing franklin to take advantage
he fights tito agein at 100% and gets sqrewed
he has not had no luck there will be anouther fight and KEN WILL KNOCK HIS HAIR BLACK

GO ON SHAMROCK KNOCK HIS HAIR BLACK THEN SPANK HIS ASS AND IN THE LAST ROUND BEAT HIM INTO LIVIN DEATH LOL
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I agree Iceman usually when a fighter is in a bad position so early in the fight the ref usually warns them to defend them selves before they stop the fight this didn't happen the ref made a bad call simple as he gave Ken no chance to recover his position.

This could cause one of the greatest fighters in history to retire just because of some stupid referee not doing his job properly he should be fired, Dana has to show the world that unfair decisions wont be tolerated otherwise it makes the sport look like a joke.
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well i think ken didnt look hurt at all when he got up , he could of taken a few more of those or so , we never know what could of happened if herb didnt stop it. dammit!
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I would say herb is the 2nd best ref in the ufc obviously big john is 1st

i like herb
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