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post #51 of 55 (permalink) Old 07-15-2006, 10:40 PM
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No matter what anyone says what happened to yves only three fights before must have wayed heavily on herb. No one wanted to see another bloody mess like that.
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You can't bleed out of your chest that easily, there has to be a cut obviously and an elbow isn't the best way to cut skin open.
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post #53 of 55 (permalink) Old 07-16-2006, 11:55 AM
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He did not Spring to his feet.
It was obvious that he was in trouble if someone hit's Straight Elbows like that than your going to be injured.

As for the Sakuraba fight i thought Ken had more in that.
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Originally Posted by down4thecount
You say that the fact that Ken sprung to his feet shows that he was not hurt.
Ken sprung to his feet in protest after the Sakuraba fight in Pride claiming that the ref made a BS call.
Ken was out like a light!!!
Even his own brother Frank Shamrock said that he couldn't believe that Ken was protesting the Saku fight because he was out!!!

So the fact that Ken sprung to his feet means less than nothing.

I believe the Ortiz fight was a good stoppage...But I also think that Herb should've at least warned Ken to "do something" or "protect yourself or I'm gonna stop the fight"
There was no warning at all!!!

However...It would not have changed the outcome of the fight in the least bit.
yea I think you said it best there.. if the ref had given a waringin first then stopped no one could complain.. I think the call could go either way and I could argue both points I wish it went just a little longer though..

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He didn't seem out at all in the Sakuraba fight.

But as for the Call i still think Herb is an idiot it wasn't fully proven yet i mean you can tell what was going to happen and Ken was injured.But obviously it wasn't enough for everyone to see.
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