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post #21 of 97 (permalink) Old 10-08-2011, 01:38 PM
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You are jumping the gun on this. Frankly Dunham, Torres, and Stephen's BJJ is not on the same level as Lauzon's.
oh really? Because just 7 months ago Evan Dunham was considered the next BJ Penn with his "world class jiu jitsu"

Its amazing how perspectives change when people's little weak spots are exposed.
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oh really? Because just 7 months ago Evan Dunham was considered the next BJ Penn with his "world class jiu jitsu"

Its amazing how perspectives change when people's little weak spots are exposed.
7 Months ago he was KO'd by Guillard, are you saying we all thought he was a top ranked guy after this split decision with Griffin and his loss to Sherk?

And from what I recall Dunham wasn't a "top BJJ guy" he was a hot prospect that was well rounded.

This isn't a hype situation like it was with Dunham. This also isn't a journeyman or gate keeper which is who Guillards beaten. Lauzon is a solid if not inconsistent fighter. Personally I would have liked to see Guillard do what Ben Henderson did and face Mark Bocek or Jim Miller.

I just hope for your sake that Lauzon doesn't tap him out in first round.
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Just feels like a big mismatch, Melvin should crush him.

Ill give you that Joe has top notch bjj but his wrestling is average, his grappling is good but he is not particularly strong so he may or maynot be able to take the fight to the ground.

I just don't think he can take advantage of his bjj skills in this fight, Jackson's should be able to patch up the holes in Melvin's game and he's a monster standing and Joe's chin IMO won't be able to take the power, sooner or later he'll get cracked and finished.

But I'd like to see him win, another jens like ko would make me lol.
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Just feels like a big mismatch, Melvin should crush him.
I agree Melvin is a favorte and I think and will bet on him to win, but this feels like Schaub/Nog type fight where Lauzon has the particular skills to pull the upset.
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I agree Melvin is a favorte and I think and will bet on him to win, but this feels like Schaub/Nog type fight where Lauzon has the particular skills to pull the upset.
Absolutely. I don't see enough change in Guillard to think he has seriously worked on his submission defense.

Lauzon always comes out hard and finds a way to get the fight to the ground and his opponent in trouble. He did it against Florian, Stout, Stephens, Sotiropoulous etc. It either works and he catches them early or he loses. I am just not sure that Guillard can avoid the submission, if he can survive to the 2nd it should be easy pickings for him though. He might be able to finish it in the 1st but I think he will be busy defending the takedown/submission.
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Melvin is the favourite here, but there is one very distinct and clear path to a Lauzon victory in my eyes. Guillard has improved tenfold with the Jackson camp, but I can't help but feel that the mental side of things will always be a chink in his armour.

We all know how fast Lauzon starts. If he can push the face from the offset with Guillard, I believe there is a chance that he could fluster Melvin, and cause him to panic. When he's panicking, he's off his gameplan and is not thinking clearly and I could see Lauzon submitting him.

It's a one off chance, but the possibility is there

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Time for the fight soon!

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Melvin by destruction! It would be awesome though if we get the explosive 1st round Louzon! It would make this an interesting fight.
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Melvin looks so relaxed and pumped.
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Hoping Guillard wins just so I can get back to my winning ways bet-wise. I like both of them though, so I would not be disappointed if Lauzon wins.
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