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Thailand gym Tiger considers Mike Swick and Roger Huerta traitors.

As always, here's a complete rundown of the recent news and rumblings coming out of the Asian MMA scene:

The grudge between Thailand's top MMA teams Tiger Muay Thai and Phuket Top Team are getting uglier and uglier. If you haven't heard about any of the details yet, Tiger Muay Thai was where Roger Huerta and Mike Swick used to train at in Thailand. Here's Ray Elbe of TMT talking about his disappointment that both MMA stars were leaving to create their own gym after receiving 'VIP Treatment' and free housing during their stay in Thailand.
For his upcoming bout against War Machine, Roger Huerta is now training with Phuket Top Team, a rival gym that's just around 100 (Updated via PTT) 1.5k meters away or so from Tiger Muay Thai. Things get even uglier when Tiger Muay Thai offered War Machine to train him to prepare for Huerta. He replied with a simple query: "If he trained with you guys for a year why would you wanna help me beat him?"
There were a bunch of nasty rumors coming out of both camps which involved trying to muddy each other up by having different accusations about various stuff from training permits to even firearms. These apparently led to death threats and a camp being raided cause of this. Pretty ugly stuff, but I'd rather not focus on those rumors, so let's move on and check out Mike Swick talking about Tiger's beef with him and Roger Huerta. He also addresses the accusations of them trying to steal trainers for their gym. Here's a snippet (You can read his entire account here):

Tiger Muay Thai is claiming that Roger and I are traitors, like Aldrich Ames in the 80's, since we have trained at their facility before and are now doing our own gym in Thailand. Ray Elbe(Tiger Head MMA Trainer, Spokesperson) has been maliciously bad mouthing us to everyone at Tiger and to anyone that will listen, though after we announced we were doing this, we met with him and came to an agreement in which he was very respectful and understanding in person. Soon as we left Thailand we were traders and had disrespected Tiger. It is uber sad considering what all we have done for Tiger and done for free.

...We are not trying to take Tigers customers or trainers. That is just silly! There are a ton of great fighters that become trainers everyday in Bangkok plus trainers move like vintage David Caradine in Kung Fu. In the 4 years I was in Phuket, I can't tell you how many trainers came and went from all the gyms.
That quote came from a Radio interview Mike Swick gave on october 3rd to MMA Junkie. I finally got to listen to it today and he gave an update on some other stuff. I will create a thread on it in a bit.

Anyway... From what i hear Mike Swick say it sounds like Tiger is being jealous and creating beef because of it. Mike Swick and Roger Huerta both gave alot of seminars over at Tigers gym and they did it all for free. But they both always wanted to open up their own gym and at the same time they want to help out the Thailand MMA scene. There still isnt any legit MMA gyms out there in thailand because most of them are being trained by people strictly in Muay Thai and we all know MMA striking is different then Muay Thai striking. They also have alot of very unsafe training up there that is getting people really hurt. So Mike Swick and Roger Huerta want to open up a American level MMA gym over in Thailand so they can help everyone interested out. They see kids doing these unsafe and necessary training methods and they think they can help change that. So they are opening up a gym themselves and bringing over alot of legit trainers including the AKA fighters to help out.
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