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post #11 of 20 (permalink) Old 10-15-2011, 10:07 PM
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I wouldn't say Condit has superior striking to GSP in any regard. And I love how St. Pierre is still catching flack for his chin because of one TKO many, many years ago. In any event, it's going to be an amazing fight... perhaps even more so than the original Diaz vs. St. Pierre bout.
One KO loss or 100 KO loss, he still got knocked out which mean his chin isn't the best when someone hits him. Condit definitely has the KO power to Knock GSP out and that IMO is his only chance of winning this fight.
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this condit clown got ragdolled by ellenberger for 2 rounds, remember.Saint *ueer is going to molest him to a decision

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GSP's striking is leagues beyond Condit's (especially before Condit finds his rhythm which can take forever). But I still love this fight.


IMO it goes a lot like the Alves fight. Condit will do okay standing but get dropped by GSP without hurting GSP back, he'll get taken down at will but not held down. I don't think he'll threaten with submissions much.
I tend to agree, by I think Condit draws many similarities to Jon Fitch. In my eyes Condit is a smaller weaker version of Jon Fitch except he's a bit faster and has more accurate and fluid standup.

I think we are going to see Condit get held down and GSP possibly trying to go for submissions.

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Condit has absolutely nothing to lose in this fight and he is doing everything right. He is conducting himself with class and showing what MMA is all about.

Plus, he took a fight that he wasn't originally scheduled for and he did it against a man who is at least a part time teammate. Dana is probably loving Condit right now, win or lose... this is Condits time to shine without question.

Having pointed that all out, in the business side of things. I actually really like Condits chances. He has no doubt trained with GSP on many occasions and I can't see him being afriad of George. With his killer instinct that is a dangerous combination for GSP.

Guys like Alves and Koscheck were applauded for the same fearless nature but if you really trace back their fights... they only fight like that against guys they are suppose to beat... Condit does it against everybody.
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The TKO that happened many many years ago was a perfect strike, right behind the ear. That is very hard to replicate in the heat of the moment. That type of strike is one of the worst you can be hit with because it messes with your equilibrium.

I think GSP has a good chin and mostly anyone hit with that particular strike I mentioned above, would react the same. In fact, a majority of fighters go out cold if hit in that spot.

Anyone remember the matches between BJ? GSP took some serious shots in that first match. Seems people forget and just want to look at the TKO loss, instead of looking at the whole picture.
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Condit has absolutely nothing to lose in this fight and he is doing everything right. He is conducting himself with class and showing what MMA is all about.

Plus, he took a fight that he wasn't originally scheduled for and he did it against a man who is at least a part time teammate. Dana is probably loving Condit right now, win or lose... this is Condits time to shine without question.

Having pointed that all out, in the business side of things. I actually really like Condits chances. He has no doubt trained with GSP on many occasions and I can't see him being afriad of George. With his killer instinct that is a dangerous combination for GSP.

Guys like Alves and Koscheck were applauded for the same fearless nature but if you really trace back their fights... they only fight like that against guys they are suppose to beat... Condit does it against everybody.
I've read a couple different articles where Gregg Jackson says he doesn't believe they've trained together ever.
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One KO loss or 100 KO loss, he still got knocked out which mean his chin isn't the best when someone hits him.
And Mark Hunt got knocked out once, I guess that means his chin is questionable as well.

Bottom line is we just don't know until he gets hit a few more times, and GSP sure is doing his best to keep that from happening. Maybe he does have a weak chin, maybe the Serra punch was a perfectly placed one in a million shot, there's not enough evidence to settle it either way.
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1. GSP is my favorite fighter.

2. I've really enjoyed watching Condit since joining the UFC a few years ago. The kid has really grown on me, and I'm glad to see him get a title shot, unfortunately it's against GSP. Now I get to watch two of my favorite fighters face off for the belt.

3. Condit has impressive finishes over MacDonald, Hardy and Kim. Two KOs of the night and a fight of the night in his last 3 fights -- very impressive. The Ellenberger fight was a long time ago (which he still won), and he's looked better in each fight since then. Calling him a clown is just ignorant.
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I tend to agree, by I think Condit draws many similarities to Jon Fitch. In my eyes Condit is a smaller weaker version of Jon Fitch except he's a bit faster and has more accurate and fluid standup.

I think we are going to see Condit get held down and GSP possibly trying to go for submissions.
That's crazy talk. They couldn't be more different imo and have completely different skill sets it seems.

I'd love to see Carlos win the title but think he's going to have a hard time doing much of anything. His striking is exciting and fun to watch but GSP will have the advantage in almost every area.

Georges striking is more effective but not as flashy, his wrestling is leagues better, he's bigger, stronger, faster, and much more capable of dictating where the fight takes place.

Condits active guard should help him in getting back to his feet but unless he manages to rock him with something and getting a finish he'll just keep getting taken down. Hopefully that's not the case and GSP is looking up at the lights from his back at the end of the fight but I don't see it happening

Here's a cool vid of Carlos when he was 15 or so judging by his looks

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