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Old 11-16-2011, 05:01 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Um, all of those facts are dead wrong. Do you have any idea how taxation even works? 10%??? Do you realize the ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM deductible he can get is per year is 15,000 Euros?
As far as I can tell that only refers to education costs. The passage in question reads as follows:

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There's nothing on those pages which says there's a limit of X amount in total which can be deducted each year.
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Old 11-16-2011, 05:01 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Doesn't Golden Glory owe Overeem money?
Is it GG that owes or FEG. I always assumed FEG has never paid them.
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Old 11-16-2011, 05:05 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Is it GG that owes or FEG. I always assumed FEG has never paid them.
I think FEG hasn't paid GG therefore GG hasn't paid Overeem? Hence why Overeem is not pleased because GG can't get his money. And to my understanding he shouldn't have to worry about that because the way GG operates, they owe Overeem money, not FEG.
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Old 11-16-2011, 05:13 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Maybe it has to do with the fact that he disrespected them on the way out and owes them money...

But lets not let those other things get in the way.

You were on a roll I won't stop you now...
According to Bas Rutten, yes. Though I will point out that a member of this forum wished for Overeem to get shot in the back of the head on the street after he left GG but before Bas said any of this. So to act like that's the only reason anyone is mad seems like you haven't been listening to people who are mad at him.

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Doesn't Golden Glory owe Overeem money?
According to his lawsuit, they owe him about $150k. But that's from his side, just like Bas' story is from GG's side. I don't know the truth of either.

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Is it GG that owes or FEG. I always assumed FEG has never paid them.
FEG supposedly owes him $400k for the grand prix win. I don't know if he got paid for his fight with Duffee at Dream.

Since he's "only" suing GG for $150k, it may be a different issue. Or maybe they paid him part of what they owe and he's suing for the rest? Not sure.
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Old 11-16-2011, 05:25 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Is it GG that owes or FEG. I always assumed FEG has never paid them.
GG owes Overeem his UFC signing bonus which was something like 200,000 dollars.
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I knew Overeem stunk of traitor form the very start.

Everything from the very start, from them pulling him out of the GP, ditching the rest of the GG team to him signing up and moving camp was a set up from the very start, all part of a deal he pre-planned out with Zuffa, once the deal was set then the pieces where all staged in chain, The Reem is a traitor who sold out his entire team in order to make more money for himself, he has no honour, and joins the ranks of Sonnen in the low stream of human values as a person, I hope he signed a blood contract with the devil himself and is destined to spend eternity in hell, I hope that is the cost of selling out others like that.
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im sure bas has some pals over at GG.


if this wasnt mentioned already
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I knew Overeem stunk of traitor form the very start.

Everything from the very start, from them pulling him out of the GP, ditching the rest of the GG team to him signing up and moving camp was a set up from the very start, all part of a deal he pre-planned out with Zuffa, once the deal was set then the pieces where all staged in chain, The Reem is a traitor who sold out his entire team in order to make more money for himself, he has no honour, and joins the ranks of Sonnen in the low stream of human values as a person, I hope he signed a blood contract with the devil himself and is destined to spend eternity in hell, I hope that is the cost of selling out others like that.
That doesn't make any sense.

If Zuffa and he conspired to get him out of GG, why did Zuffa arrange his UFC contract with GG? Reem's contract states that GG gets 35% of any deals they negotiate for a year after he leaves.

So if it was always prearranged for him to leave, why wouldn't he leave them before he had them negotiate his contract?

He's suing to get that contract voided now, but he wouldn't even need to if he had dumped them a little earlier, but still well after this "preplanned deal" you're sure happened.

If your scenario is true, he'd be risking 35% of his money for a year for absolutely no reason. Does that make any sense to you? If you were planning to leave your management, would you let them negotiate the biggest deal of your life and risk them earning 35% commission on it? I think anyone would dump them before that.
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We are too far removed to be able to say who's on the right side of the fence. To me it sounds like gg and reem both acted unprofessionally so in my mind they both share some blame.

That's what's nice about having a legal system, if people owe you money you go to court and hash it out.

So how many of you would be willing to allow someone else to cash a check you risked life and limb for? Nobody takes those risks WITH you. To me its simple, pay your bills and if you don't off to collections with you but nobody should be allowed to cash a check for a fighter, too many financial blood suckers in this businesses to allow that next thing you know fighters will be back to getting nothing.

We owe doctors, directv and a few other bills I can only guess what it would be like to have someone pay the bills with there prioritys and give me what's left over, I'm not saying bas doesn't make some good points but that's more about personal responsibility. No way ill ever sign with a gym that makes me turn over my paycheck and I don't care who owns, teaches or trains there.
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