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post #11 of 41 (permalink) Old 11-21-2011, 10:21 PM
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He isn't whining, and I don't see how anyone could take it as sour grapes. He isn't saying the blows to the back of the head cost him the match. He's simply saying that refs need to pay closer attention, a truth I think most of us will agree with. I doubt Wand did it on purpose, and it is very much a part of MMA, but I wouldn't want a guy like Silva wailing away on my cerebellum either. Refs need keep an eye open, and that's all Cung is saying. He certainly isn't calling for a No Contest or discrediting Wand in any way.
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Alot of people flurry and land bunch of blows to the back of the head. Trying to flurry and at the same time being so precise to only hit the side or front is kind of tough and probably makes flurries in certain situations nearly impossible. Cung le is correct though, aslong as its a rule that they are not allowed they need to be not allowed.

the end of my spine is in the back of my head and the bone sticks out a cm or 2 further then it does for the average person. If someone straight wailed on it i would probably be dead lol.


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Regardless if Wandy didn't know he was hitting him on the back of the head or not, or meant to hit him on the back of the head, it's still a serious problem. It's like if you break an ambiguous law, not knowingly doing so. That doesn't make you innocent just because you weren't aware you were doing it. It shouldn't take a person getting seriously hurt from getting hit on the back of the head for them to take this serious.

From a reffing standpoint, I can understand the ref wouldn't pull Wandy off of Cung because he was hitting him on the back of the head because Wandy was on the verge of ending the fight. Also, it's in the ref's hands to protect the fighter from taking unnecessary damage when he can't protect himself. Is it okay for the ref to, maybe prematurely, end a fight in a TKO because a guy is getting hit in the back of the head?
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Regardless if Wandy didn't know he was hitting him on the back of the head or not, or meant to hit him on the back of the head, it's still a serious problem. It's like if you break an ambiguous law, not knowingly doing so. That doesn't make you innocent just because you weren't aware you were doing it. It shouldn't take a person getting seriously hurt from getting hit on the back of the head for them to take this serious.

From a reffing standpoint, I can understand the ref wouldn't pull Wandy off of Cung because he was hitting him on the back of the head because Wandy was on the verge of ending the fight. Also, it's in the ref's hands to protect the fighter from taking unnecessary damage when he can't protect himself. Is it okay for the ref to, maybe prematurely, end a fight in a TKO because a guy is getting hit in the back of the head?
If that was the case then everyone would aim for the back of the head looking for an early stoppage. Just encouraging abuse of the rules by blurring the lines
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its a tricky one coz like sum1 said it happens alot when ppl are tryin to finish, therefore if you call a break because of these strikes then you could really change the outcome of the fight

early stoppage maybe, but the result wouldve been the same

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Rogan made that stoppage seem a lot worse than it was. Cung was just laying there holding a leg, he was doing nothing to protect himself, he was laying flat on his stomach not fighting for the take down. You can't do that.

Rogan annoyed the hell out of me in this fight. Which he usually doesn't do, but he was rubbing one out to Cung Le's TKD kicks, it was annoying as hell.

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He can still express his feelings of the matter.

I remember when they took a point away from Brock in his UFC debut for practically the same thing.
Which was controversial for the simple fact that no one ever deducts a point unless several warnings have been issued. It really is one of those things that is nearly impossible to enforce. Either you overreact (like in the Brock situation) or you under react (like that one gps fight where he got warned like 4 times).


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Which was controversial for the simple fact that no one ever deducts a point unless several warnings have been issued. It really is one of those things that is nearly impossible to enforce. Either you overreact (like in the Brock situation) or you under react (like that one gps fight where he got warned like 4 times).
He opened a gash on the back of Mir's head. When a foul causes damage like that it is an automatic point deduction according to Herb Dean.
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I thought the punches were fine. The first two or so were to the back of the head but Wandy started working towards the ear and then the fight was stopped. It would've seemed fine if the fight went on for a few more seconds.
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