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Old 11-22-2011, 06:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rafael Cordiero: Shogun needs to train harder if he wants to get back to the top

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Mauricio Rua's long time friend and former head trainer, Rafael Cordiero, has been speaking about his former students performance this past weekend (Nov. 19) at the UFC 139: "Shogun vs. Henderson" event in San Jose, California.

Fans were treated to what many are calling the best fight in UFC history, as Rua and Dan Henderson put on a show for the ages in a back and forth brawl that left both men battered and bruised. "Hendo" and "Shogun" traded punches and knockdowns for 25 minutes, which eventually resulted in the American walking away with a somewhat controversial unanimous decision victory.

Everyone from fans, media and even UFC President Dana White were left in awe of the efforts that both combatants put forth in their epic battle.

Apparently, Cordiero was not as impressed as the rest of us.

Though he admits he has not seen the fight, he tells MMAWeekly.com he feels that from what he has heard, "Shogun" needs to start taking training a bit more seriously.



"I didn't see the fight because I was with Wanderlei at the moment of the fight. But what everybody say, "Shogun" needs to work a little bit more on his cardio. I don't know about this fight because he didn't train with us for this fight. What I can say, is that if he wants back to the top he needs to start training. When you have guys inside your gym with responsibility, professional guys in all styles, it's easy to do the work. So sometimes, if you don't have this, it's hard because you are fighter, you are manager, you are coach you are everything. In Shogun's case, he is the boss there. So when he wants to stop the training, he stops and nobody is going to say no to Shogun and say "No Shogun, you need to work a little bit more." In my gym, I don't have fighters, I have students there. My students work and my students learn martial arts, respect and discipline and it makes a difference. Wanderlei, we are old friends, we work 20 years together but he is still my student."

Cordiero also has some words of advice for his former pupil:

"He needs to start training as much as he can. He needs to work hard it's no joke; this sport is a hard sport. He represents not just him, but he represents a great show. UFC is a great show and or you to fight here you need to work hard and you need to work on your techniques and your cardio. He needs to put that in his head if he wants back to the top."

"Shogun" and Cordiero have a friendship dating back all the way to the PRIDE FC days when Cordiero served as Rua's head trainer at the famed Chute Boxe Academy.

The gym, which housed fighters such as Wanderlei Silva, Anderson Silva, Fabricio Werdum, Murilo Rua, was known for their brutal all out training sessions in which sparring sessions mirrored that of a real fight.

After departing Chute Boxe in 2009, Cordiero headed stateside to Huntington Beach, California, to open up Kings MMA. His new gym houses familiar faces such as Wanderlei Silva and Fabricio Werdum along with top talents Jason Miller, Mark Munoz and Jake Ellenberger.

Shogun and Cordiero had recently reunited for Rua's last previous fight against Forrest Griffin at UFC 134 this past Aug. 27. The reunion proved a success as "Shogun" avenged his loss to Griffin, knocking him out in the very first round.

So it came as a surprise when it was reported that Rua and Cordiero would not train together ahead of his much anticipated bout with fellow PRIDE legend Dan Henderson.

Perhaps a return to Cordiero and Kings MMA would be wise move for Mauricio Rua for his next bout.
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I wonder why Rua didn't train with him for this fight. Weird Cordiero didn't watch the fight seeing as he was in the same building and they go way back with Shogun.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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He trained at the same place he trained for the Liddell fight in the hopes of improving his boxing, I noticed during the Hendo fight Shogun landed the same exact punch he did on Liddell that dropped him and led him to finishing the fight, I think it was a big mistake though not training at Kings, he looked pretty good with them for the Forrest fight even though Forrest came in just to get slaughtered, this performance should convince him to move to California and train full time there.
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Old 11-22-2011, 08:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Why would he not train at Kings? Most of the guys who train at the Reign Training Center, also train at Kings. Guys like Mark Munoz, Mayhem Miller, Werdum, and of course Wanderlei. That doesn't even include Cordiero himself, or the S&C, Wrestling and JJ coaches they have.

There's no one in Shoguns camp who compares to the guys in-house, or to the crew Cordiero could put together to help him. I honestly expected him to come in out of shape when I heard he wasn't training at Kings for this one.

I really think it was a big mistake to train in Brazil for this one. I think its about time Shogun makes the permanent move to LA so he can train at King full time, and actually achieve his full potential.
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...Maybe. Shogun is 1-2 in his last 3 fights but he ran into a peaked out, top of his game, Dan Henderson. Hendo is no easy fight for anybody...period. 16 of Shogun's 20 wins have ended in the first round, so he rarely has gone the distance. It's hard to say cause he went all 5 in that first battle with Machida and didn't gas. Only Shogun knows Shogun...
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...Maybe. Shogun is 1-2 in his last 3 fights but he ran into a peaked out, top of his game, Dan Henderson. Hendo is no easy fight for anybody...period. 16 of Shogun's 20 wins have ended in the first round, so he rarely has gone the distance. It's hard to say cause he went all 5 in that first battle with Machida and didn't gas. Only Shogun knows Shogun...
Machida fights at a very methodical pace I think that had a lot to do with the reason Shogun's cardio looked fantastic in the fight in the fact it was one of the more technical fights you'll ever see. I think had Machida decided to do more grappling like he did in the second fight that first fight could have been different.
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Remember reading this weeks leading up to the fight and it got me thinking. Why would you change a successful camp...other then for preference or personal reasons. I know training at Kings Gym would have only helped. The fight on Saturday was very reminiscent of a vintage Pride fight. If you look closely there wasn't much game planning...haha...it was two legends going at it instinctively...yep they're that good (experienced.)

I saw Shogun try the left hook the same one he used against a slower moving Chuck and right upper cuts. Of course he tried the take downs once he got into trouble.

In retrospect Shogun was a lot more successful on the ground, then again it may not have been as exciting as it was. So...I am not complaining at all...lolz!

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...Maybe. Shogun is 1-2 in his last 3 fights but he ran into a peaked out, top of his game, Dan Henderson. Hendo is no easy fight for anybody...period. 16 of Shogun's 20 wins have ended in the first round, so he rarely has gone the distance. It's hard to say cause he went all 5 in that first battle with Machida and didn't gas. Only Shogun knows Shogun...
Huh? Hendo is close to being done physically at this point. He is a badass but his body is so wrecked he is forced to fight in a division where he doesn't have to cut weight. The Hendo that fought Rampage and Andy would have dominated all 5 rounds or finished Shogun.
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