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post #11 of 59 (permalink) Old 12-05-2011, 09:53 AM
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I agree with same day weigh ins. I think some guys would still weight cut, but guys like Alves would clearly have to move up a weight class.

I wonder what the heavyweight group would look like? I mean guys like Forrest would all of a sudden be fighting 260lb behemoths.
I think light heavy (with the wide expanse of weights above them at heavyweight) would be most impacted here. I agree fully with same day weigh ins. Perhpas it would need to coincide with the splitting of heavy into two weight classes?

As for championship fights:
Champ misses weight and loses: Still championship fight--loses belt.
Champ misses weight and wins: ???? This is tough, perhaps immediate rematch, does not count as a title defense? Loses 100% of purse to opponent?
Opponent misses weight: No longer a championship fight if they win. If they lose...still a good defense for champ. Maybe forced up a weight class?
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Only problem is, what would happen if one doesn't make weight? For a championship fight let's say.

Aldo misses the weight and loses to Mendes, only to walk away with the belt.
They could make a simple rule: Title holder misses weight - it's still a title match and he gets fined 10% of his purse for each pound above weight limit. Contender misses weight - the title is not on the line anymore and he gets fined 10% for each pound above weight limit.

And for giving the UFC more surety they could implement that fighters have to send in a paper with their weight (with something like less than 10% above weight limit) signed by a physician a week before the fight.

There would be easy ways to control fighter's weight if they cared.
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Boxing at the weekend, Brandon Rios fought John Murrey. Rios had the belt but weighed in 1.6 over. The fight went ahead. If Murrey wins, he gets the belt. Any other result and the belt is vacated. The champions have to come in on weight otherwise they are fecked. I approve.
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Boxing at the weekend, Brandon Rios fought John Murrey. Rios had the belt but weighed in 1.6 over. The fight went ahead. If Murrey wins, he gets the belt. Any other result and the belt is vacated. The champions have to come in on weight otherwise they are fecked. I approve.
I agree, it is part of wearing the belt. Who was it who screwed up in the WEC, Varner I think who came in overweight and technically the fight was not for the title. Screw that noise.
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I wholeheartedly agree with the OP, not much to add really. +rep.
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Yep, never understood why weigh-ins have to be a day before, and after learning it's because of some archaic boxing legacy I see no reason to move to fight day.

Hell, have them step on the damn scale at the "Harley Davidson prep point."
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I agree, it is part of wearing the belt. Who was it who screwed up in the WEC, Varner I think who came in overweight and technically the fight was not for the title. Screw that noise.
I don't remember Varner missing weight for a title fight. I do remember Paulo Filho didn't make weight for the title fight with Chael Sonnen and Chael was pissed because it was his last chance to get the WEC MW belt.
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Yep, never understood why weigh-ins have to be a day before, and after learning it's because of some archaic boxing legacy I see no reason to move to fight day.
I thought it was for health reasons - these guys are so motivated they'll cut the weight either way, but if it's the day before they'll get a chance rehydrate and could reduce chance of brain (or any other) injury.
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One of 2 ways you can go about the weight cutting (as I agree, most fighters cut weigh too much).

1. Same day weigh ins

or my personal option

2. Friday weigh ins and on fight night you cant weigh more than 10 lbs over the limit....with how the divisions are set now I think you have to allow for some weight cutting.
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post #20 of 59 (permalink) Old 12-05-2011, 12:21 PM
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wiegh them as they get to the cage. If the challenger doesn't make weight he can't win the belt, if the champ doesn't make weight he vacates it. If it's a non-title fight the fighter over gives a % of his purse to the other based on how many pounds over he is. No more dehydration, no more gassing.
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