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WTF is with all the Hendo threads. A year ago this guy couldn't get talked to if he beat a referee to death on CBS, now there are like five running.

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WTF is with all the Hendo threads. A year ago this guy couldn't get talked to if he beat a referee to death on CBS, now there are like five running.
Probably because he won what quite a few mma fans are considering the greatest fight off all time.
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WTF is with all the Hendo threads. A year ago this guy couldn't get talked to if he beat a referee to death on CBS, now there are like five running.
That's because a year ago all the Hendo threads were in the StrikeForce subforum mate




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I'm more amazed that its 6 years later and people are still talking about UFC vs. Pride. Some people still can't let go.

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I miss knees-to-the-head-of-a-grounded-opponent.

I hate that fighters now can 'take a knee' just to avoid knees/kicks to the head.

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There was a certain viciousness in Pride that simulated a no holds barred/street fighting setting. That's the type of shiet you see in clubs or on the streets if anybody has ever been in one. I'm all about regulations for the safety of fighters, but one can't help admire the Pride fighters who fought with those rules.

I'll tell you right now half of the wrestlers and BJJ wouldn't last in Pride. That's how drastic the rules would change things.

1.) For the wrestlers who ground and pound you can use the ropes to your advantage.
2.) yellow card - Fitch would get fined the most I'd imagine.
3.) refs stand up fighters more often than not
4.) Kicking the opponent in the head on the ground.
5.) Kneeing the opponent in the head on the ground.
6.) My favorite stomping the opponent in the head on the ground.
7.) Pile driving was allowed.
8.) Pride's matches are not judged on the ten point must system, rather judges score the whole fight. A lot of fights would have different outcomes.

Imagine if a BJJ or wrestler is constantly falling back to egg you on. But guess what you can stomp and kick his head. Changes the dynamic of the fight dramatically. Then you had Werdum going for the takedown then getting stuffed by Overeem. In Pride he'd knee his head in. Even though they fought in Pride before I'm using their last rematch in SF as an example. There wasn't much Overeem could do but pick his shots very carefully. Had he had the option of kneeing his head on the ground, kicking, or stomping it I'm sure he would have.

It's too bad that all the Pride fighters had to assimilate to the UFC rules. They should have a special exhibition match with the Pride rules to see how the UFC fighters adapt. Only a few representing the UFC who ventured out to the Far East had limited success; Rich Franklin, Jens Pulver, and Chuck Liddell.

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I liked Pride - but I'm really against those who miss it because more stuff was allowed... The unified rules were implemented because of fighter safety, and they are the new direction of the sport. And they are necessary for public recognition, if Pride-rules returned people would jump all over it and call MMA human cockfighting and bloodsport all over again.

I like the new image MMA is headed towards, as a sport, as something that's not about brutality but skill and athletesism




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Probably because he won what quite a few mma fans are considering the greatest fight off all time.
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That's because a year ago all the Hendo threads were in the StrikeForce subforum mate
I guess, I'm a huge Hendo fan and I feel like this arc at lately has been comparable to an up and comer/Jon Jones-espue rise.

First he wrecked Bisping after TUF and everyone loves it, then he's gone for a while gets beat by Shields and he's washed up and should retire. Then he crushes Sobral and Feijao, but it's in SF so people don't really know and don't think it's legit. Then he KOs Fedor and everyone says he's back, but the MMA world splits down the middle on whether they like him or not. Then he beats Shogun and the numbers tip towards the majority not liking him.

I really don't understand how Dan went from being such a well liked and respected guy through a KO of Fedor and a beating of Shogun to being one of the more disliked fighters. My how MMA fans are, they love you until you get to the top or close, then you suck and are over hyped and should have lost fights you won because it was stopped early or bad judging.

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