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Old 12-14-2011, 06:07 AM   #21 (permalink)
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in that list of 25 you dont think Wandy Vs Chuck is worthy of being in there?? even for a new fan.

id say you maybe forgot to add that fight in.

still working on my list
I already have a few Wandy fights there, but yeah, Chuck should be included. I trust others will fix my oversight.
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Old 12-14-2011, 09:07 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Now that I look back at the list I made I think maybe I should've put some other fights in there. There are so many fights that could be in there. The list is always objective.
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:33 PM   #23 (permalink)
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1. Dan Henderson vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua - UFC 139
2. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson vs. Forrest Griffin - UFC 86
3. Lyoto Machida vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua I - UFC 104
4. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson vs. Dan Henderson - UFC 75
5. Randy Couture vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira - UFC 102
6. Dominick Cruz vs. Urijah Faber II - UFC 132
7. Frankie Edgar vs. Gray Maynard II - UFC 125
8. Chael Sonnen vs. Nate Marquardt- UFC 109
9. Leonard Garcia vs. Chan Sung Jung - WEC 48
10. Anthony Pettis vs. Ben Henderson - WEC 53
11. Forrest Griffin vs. Stephan Bonnar I - TUF Finale 1
12. Tyson Griffin vs. Clay Guida - UFC 72
13. Diego Sanchez vs. Martin Kampmann - UFC Live 3
14. Nick Diaz vs. BJ Penn - UFC 137
15. Nick Diaz vs. Paul Daley - Strikeforce: Diaz vs. Daley
16. Donald Cerrone vs. Jamie Varner II - WEC 51
17. Dominick Cruz vs. Demetrious "Mighty Mouse" Johnson - UFC Live 6
18. Georges St. Pierre vs. BJ Penn I - UFC 58
19. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua vs. Lyoto Machida II - UFC 113
20. BJ Penn vs. Jon Fitch - UFC 127
21. Junior dos Santos vs. Roy Nelson - UFC 117
22. Chuck Liddell vs. Wanderlei Silva - UFC 79
23. Carlos Condit vs. Jake Ellenberger - UFN: Diaz vs. Guillard
24. Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen - UFC 117
25. Forrest Griffin vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua I - UFC 76
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:22 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Good list to say the least.
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:54 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Despiste being great fights, some of those 5 round decisions may not be the best suited to show to a newcomer.
Teh fast pace, techniques and finishes are imo, what can grab some new fans.
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Old 12-17-2011, 02:36 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I believe a top list to show a new fan should include wide variety of weight classes, and TKOs, KOs, subs, and quick finishes and grinding decisions, and also notable fights which are not necessarily spectacular (Lesnar vs Mir 1). The idea should be to show what to expect - if we show only 25 first-round KOs the reality will be very boring.

It also should be weighed heavily towards fighters who are active today - but still include some historic and pivotal ones. The fights should probably be accompanied by an explanation why they are on the list - whether the fighter is a legend (Wandy) or if the fight itself had an important impact in the sport (Sanchez vs Koscheck, Emelianenko vs Werdum). This way the newbie will understand there's more to the sport than guys beating the shit out of each other, and that there's a rich history despite its young age.

With that in mind, my top 25 fights for a new fan - not my top 25 fights of all time, although the top 2 are:
  1. Shogun vs Hendo (best MMA fight of all time, and with two legends)
  2. Anderson Silva vs Sonnen (the most dominant UFC champ of all time in his toughest fight)
  3. Korean Zombie vs Garcia (one of the best fights of all time)
  4. Royce Gracie vs Gordeau (this is where it all started, UFC 1)
  5. Sanchez vs Koscheck (this is where UFC started its second coming, TUF 1 finale)
  6. Emelianenko vs Werdum (at the time of the fight Emelianenko was considered one of the most dominant fighters of all time, with an unprecedented and unmatched record)
  7. Quinton Jackson vs Wanderlei Silva 2 (classic fight with two legends, and a rivalry for the ages)
  8. Quinton Jackson vs Wanderlei Silva 3 (classic fight with two legends, and a rivalry for the ages)
  9. Edgar vs Maynard 1 (Improbable and incredible performance)
  10. Edgar vs Maynard 2 (Another improbable and incredible performance)
  11. Sanchez vs Guida (MMA at its brutal finest)
  12. Hendo vs Bisping (a decisive finish to a TUF season full of smack talk)
  13. JDS vs Velasquez (UFC debuts on network television)
  14. Cro Cop vs Wanderlei Silva 2 (two legends showing their signature styles and moves, one brutal finish)
  15. Cruz vs Faber 2 (pure technique)
  16. Mir vs Minotauro 2 (when they first met, Mir delivered the first KO to Minotauro, who later claimed the loss was because he was sick. Rematch to settle the score)
  17. GSP vs Penn 2 (arguably the best pound-for-pound match-up in MMA history)
  18. Couture vs Silvia (the shot that was heard all over the MMA world)
  19. Machida vs Couture (another shot that was heard all over the MMA world)
  20. Anderson Silva vs Griffin (real world meets The Matrix)
  21. GSP vs Hughes 3 (third match in a great rivalry with two champs from different generations of fighters)
  22. Lesnar vs Mir 1 (Lesnar the pro wrestler is welcomed to UFC)
  23. Lesnar vs Mir 2 (Lesnar the MMA fighter gets a rematch)
  24. Shogun vs Machida 2 (rematch after a hotly contested and often questioned split decision)
  25. Aldo vs Swanson (one of the most spectacular finishes in MMA history)
Man, this is one bad list.
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Old 12-17-2011, 07:32 AM   #27 (permalink)
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1. Dan Henderson vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua - UFC 139
2. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson vs. Forrest Griffin - UFC 86
3. Lyoto Machida vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua I - UFC 104
4. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson vs. Dan Henderson - UFC 75
5. Randy Couture vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira - UFC 102
6. Dominick Cruz vs. Urijah Faber II - UFC 132
7. Frankie Edgar vs. Gray Maynard II - UFC 125
8. Chael Sonnen vs. Nate Marquardt- UFC 109
9. Leonard Garcia vs. Chan Sung Jung - WEC 48
10. Anthony Pettis vs. Ben Henderson - WEC 53
11. Forrest Griffin vs. Stephan Bonnar I - TUF Finale 1
12. Tyson Griffin vs. Clay Guida - UFC 72
13. Diego Sanchez vs. Martin Kampmann - UFC Live 3
14. Nick Diaz vs. BJ Penn - UFC 137
15. Nick Diaz vs. Paul Daley - Strikeforce: Diaz vs. Daley
16. Donald Cerrone vs. Jamie Varner II - WEC 51
17. Dominick Cruz vs. Demetrious "Mighty Mouse" Johnson - UFC Live 6
18. Georges St. Pierre vs. BJ Penn I - UFC 58
19. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua vs. Lyoto Machida II - UFC 113
20. BJ Penn vs. Jon Fitch - UFC 127
21. Junior dos Santos vs. Roy Nelson - UFC 117
22. Chuck Liddell vs. Wanderlei Silva - UFC 79
23. Carlos Condit vs. Jake Ellenberger - UFN: Diaz vs. Guillard
24. Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen - UFC 117
25. Forrest Griffin vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua I - UFC 76
Not a single PRIDE fight? No Fedor? No Sakuraba? No Cro Cop? No Royce? If you're gonna show a new fan 25 fights to get him interested in the sport and it's history, it's criminal not to show him a single PRIDE fight.
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Old 12-17-2011, 11:52 PM   #28 (permalink)
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1. Dan Henderson vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua - UFC 139
2. Leonard Garcia vs. Chan Sung Jung - WEC 48.
3. Forrest Griffin vs. Stephan Bonnar - TUF 1 Finale.
4. Frankie Edgar vs. Gray Maynard - UFC 125.
5. Chael Sonnen vs. Anderson Silva - UFC 117.
6. Carlos Condit vs. Rory Macdonald - UFC 115.
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12. Michael Chandler vs. Eddie Alvarez - Bellator 58.
13. Diego Sanchez vs. Clay Guida - TUF 9 Finale.
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15. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Bob Sapp - Pride Shockwave 2002.
16. Fedor Emelianenko vs. Mirko Cro Cop - Pride Final Conflict 2005.
17. Tito Ortiz vs. Frank Shamrock - UFC 22.
18. Matt Hughes vs. BJ Penn - UFC 63.
19. Quinton Jackson vs. Dan Henderson - UFC 75.
20. Anthony Pettis vs. Ben Henderson - WEC 53.
21. Chuck Liddell vs. Wanderlei Silva - UFC 79.
22. Jorge Santiago vs. Kazuo Mizaki - Sengoku 14.
23. Quinton Jackson vs. Wanderlei Silva - Pride 28.
24. Donald Cerrone vs. Ben Henderson - WEC 43.
25. Mauricio Rua vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira - Pride Critical Countdown 2005.
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This just keeps getting better and better!
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Old 12-18-2011, 12:27 AM   #30 (permalink)
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So I guess you like it?

Some fights came out random but I couldn't leave that fights out of the list.
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