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Overeem granted "conditional license" by the NSAC - late on drugtest

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#1 · (Edited)
Alistair Overeem's long-awaited UFC debut as well as a UFC 141 match with pay-per-view powerhouse Brock Lesnar was threatened after Overeem's request for a Nevada fighter's license was debated during the state's athletic commission in a Monday hearing.

In a meeting at the Grant Sawyer State Office Building in Las Vegas, commission executive director Keith Kizer told the governing body that he had difficulty in setting up a random drug test with Overeem after informing him of his intentions on November 17. Random tests are generally completed within 48 hours of notice.

And now, almost a month later and with less than three weeks to go until the fight, they have yet to receive test results from him.

Overeem, who was sworn in and gave his side of the story over the phone, explained that he provided a blood test which the NSAC acknowledged receiving. While that blood test -- taken on Nov. 23, six days after his original notice -- came back clean, it was not the proper NSAC mandated urine test, known as a "basic steroid panel."

Overeem said that after being notified of that, he took a urine test on Dec. 7, but neither he nor the NSAC have yet to receive the results. In addition, Overeem admitted that he took the second test at his personal doctor's office and sent it off to a lab in Germany.

As a result, NSAC was faced with a decision of whether or not to license him.

The Overeem debate took about one hour and forty minutes before coming to a conclusion. During it, Overeem was asked to detail the timeline from the moment he received notice of the test to the most recent Dec. 7 test. A commissioner explained that Overeem was given notice on November 17 and coincidentally returned to Holland from the U.S. on the same day. But he said he had not yet received word of the test, and had previously planned to return to Holland to help care for his ailing mother.

In one of the most pointed back and forths of the hearing, Overeem was asked if he made any efforts to delay the test, which would have offered him time to clear his body of any illegal substance he could have taken.

"I did not make any efforts to avoid any testing, and furthermore, I have done exactly what I was told to do by my assistants who were being told what to do by Mr. Kizer," he said.

Commission members later said they believed Overeem's version of events, but one commissioner noted that "the public wants to feel comfortable with this."

After a motion to grant him a conditional license based mostly upon the result of that Dec. 7 test failed, a compromise was offered where he would offer an observed urine test at an independent lab within 72 hours, the standard pre-fight test before the event, and then he would be subject to two random drug tests in the next six months at his own expense.

Overeem accepted the terms, which were approved by the commissioners in a subsequent vote.

As a result, Overeem has a conditional license, but will not be fully cleared to fight Lesnar unless the test comes back clean.

Nevada only recently began to ramp up random, out-of-competition testing after Gov. Brian Sandoval signed a bill into law that would increase funds for drug screenings. The change went into effect on July 1. The state has had the power to conduct random screenings since 2008 but often lacked the funds to employ it.

Kizer confirmed that Lesnar took and passed a pre-fight drug screening.

Overeem's difficulty in getting licensed for UFC 141 continues a rough stretch for the Dutch star, who recently filed a lawsuit against his former Golden Glory management team for their alleged refusal to fork over more than $150,000 he says he's owed. In addition, after beginning his training camp in the U.S., he recently returned home to help tend to his mother, who is recovering from cancer.

Overeem had been the Strikeforce heavyweight champion and participated in the organization's World Grand Prix, winning his quarterfinal fight against Fabricio Werdum in June. Shortly afterward, he was cut due to a dispute between his management team and Strikeforce parent company Zuffa. When he was brought back, he was signed on to the UFC brand and thrust into the midst of the heavyweight title picture, but after Monday's hearing, he still has some work to do to get licensed and ensure his participation on the Dec. 30 date.
Source: MMAFighting.com

Hmmm
 
#3 ·
These things happen. It was just timing. If he fought on SF already multiple times then there should be no reason why he shouldn't pass especially for his UFC debut in one of the biggest fights of the year!
 
#8 ·
I wouldn't care if Overeem was on Peds tbh. Come to think of it, every fighter could do it and I wouldn't mind a bit. If a fighter wants to damage his body for a shot at glory than by all means, have at it. That would take a serious amount of dedication imo to ruin ones health for a chance at a championship.... Or maybe you'll look like Stallone at 60, who knows?



I think steroids should be taken more often by more people. In all honesty, I don't know much about them but the horror stories of people over doing it are the only info I have on them. With a set schedule and workout routine I think they'd help alot of people.

I've went way off topic but if Overeem has or does use them, look at what they've done for him. He went from a well rounded, scrawny lhw, to an enormous, lumbering, can crushing body builder, who will feel the wrath of Lesnar in a couple weeks:thumb02:
 
#14 ·
I wouldn't care if Overeem was on Peds tbh. Come to think of it, every fighter could do it and I wouldn't mind a bit. If a fighter wants to damage his body for a shot at glory than by all means, have at it. That would take a serious amount of dedication imo to ruin ones health for a chance at a championship....
I couldn't agree MORE with this statement. If steroids/PEDS's and the like were LEGAL, it'd be a more even playing field anyway... let anyone/everyone take 'em. If they don't wanna, they don't haveta.

But yeah, so long as he makes the fight is all I care about. I just hope that all of this trouble produces a somewhat decent fight between he & Lesnar and not a disappointment.
 
#15 ·
He's fighting Brock, A known steroid user, so it's fair game from here on out. Just let them fight. Disclaimer: I doubt Brock is taking anything now, since he's shrunk considerably since he left wrestling/plus sickness.
 
#20 ·
He's fighting Brock, A known steroid user, so it's fair game from here on out. Just let them fight. Disclaimer: I doubt Brock is taking anything now, since he's shrunk considerably since he left wrestling/plus sickness.
When?

Never failed a drug test in the WWE.
Never failed one for the NFL.
Never failed one in MMA.

You have no proof either guy is on steroids or has ever taken them.
 
#34 ·
As per the article -

"As a result, Overeem has a conditional license, but will not be fully cleared to fight Lesnar unless the test comes back clean."


He's not completely out of the woods yet guys. Let's hope that urine comes back cleaner than Angel tears.
 
#37 ·
I wonder who can fight Brock IF Overeem gets pulled out... I've always wanted to see Roy Nelson vs Brock... I don't like when he's fighting the top guys, although I don't think Overeem is one of the top guys, I just think he should be fighting some fun matchups before he gets back in there for the title.
 
#38 ·
I think they are just going to slide Mir in for a Lesnar vs Mir 3. Mir said he is willing to step in and fight Brock. Also Mir's medical suspension is only 14 days so he is cleared when UFC 141 is around the corner. He is also the only one close to a title shot that is available, so why not?

Unless they just throw Cain Velasquez in there again... lol. But that will be a little funny since Brock's last fight was against Cain and both of them only need 1 fight to get another shot.
 
#40 ·
A guy is unable to return a simple piss test after weeks, returns a (pre-stored) blood test instead, and you think it's a "witch hunt"?

It's as good as an admission of guilt, what possible problem could one have, did Overeem not take a piss in 3 freakin weeks?? Is he living in the Sahara desert? There is absolutely no plausible reason to not take a mandated piss test UNLESS you are guilty. None whatsoever. Prove me wrong, give me single a plausible reason.

Sure, conveniently test him after weeks of letting him get the cycle out of his system. Wow what a smart idea. I suppose they should let suspects at a murder scene wipe the tables and counters, vacuum the carpets, burn all evidence, go home, take a nice bath, and bring them back a month later to collect clues.
 
#47 ·
I personally like to give guys the benefit of the doubt about steroids. I box competitively in the amateur ranks myself and am very serious about my fitness and training and always had a very good physique. I can honestly swear on anything that I have never done roids or anything like that. Yet people always make accusations around town that I juice. I find people that don't have the genetics or who aren't willing to put in the hard work to get a cheezled bulky body love to make the accusation that anyone who's jacked or puts on a lot of muscle is on juice.

I will admit this sounds kinda fishy all the stuff that went wrong with Overeem doing a simple piss test. but you never know shit does happen sometimes maybe he did make an effort to get the piss test in. I know Overeem trains like a beast, eats like a horse and has great genetics this could be why he has such a muscle bound physique and was able to put on so much weight.

What I'm really getting at is I won't accuse anyone of juicing till there is proof because I know no matter what if you have a serious build people will accuse you of doping.
 
#49 ·
Did make an effort and still couldn't get it in over a month? A guy that spends 6 hours a day getting punched in the face for a career can't take out one hour over a period of a month to safeguard that career?

C'mon man you're grasping at straws, there's only one reason you won't piss in that cup, and that's if you know you're guilty.

Your personal example is all well and good, but if the boxing commission tells you to take a piss test, you'd take it pronto, that's the difference.

Besides, it's not just how built Overeem is, it's how fast he got built after staying the same for years. 60+ lbs of lean muscle in < 2 years? How long did it take you to get where you are now?
 
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