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Old 01-09-2012, 06:49 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Can someone neg this idiot for me? I need to spread the rep more before I can.

In saying all of this Ari, you are infact proving to us that you are a "low quality" person.

I know you probably can't see this cos i think i'm on your ignore list but: What do you think of a man born in Somalia? Is he a horrible person that doesn't deserve anything in life because he was born into a life of poverty and violence?

No, he's a victim of circumstance, as is Nick Diaz. He clearly has some social issues, he was born and brought up in the USAs highest crime area and I don't think he finished middle school.

Why don't you take your hat off to someone less fortunate than you that has actually succeeded in life? You don't have to be a heinous, judgemental b.itch all the time.

Every time i hear you say Nick Diaz is scared, i want to get your head checked for sanity.
What constitutes a bad person in that case? You do realize that most of the people in prison grew up in bad neighborhoods and around crime their whole lives. So now these murder's and robbers are just "victims of circumstances" instead of bad people? Give me a break.

There is a time in everyone's life where they need to become an adult. They need to accept responsibility for their actions. They decide what kind of person they are going to be. I know you don't like to admit it, but it IS a choice. Not merely how you were raised.

FACT: Most child molesters were molested as kids themselves. So these aren't bad people? Merely "Victims of circumstances?" Give me a ******* break. Call a spade a spade.

Not to mention, why isn't Nate as bad as Nick when it comes to this stuff? They had the same childhood and grew up in the same area... yet he can actually take care of his responsibilities and act like an adult (most of the time).
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Old 01-09-2012, 07:05 PM   #42 (permalink)
 
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hahaha I don't care for count down shows, or PR junkets, I only care about the fights. So I love Diaz. He's really the only fighter who has through his actions told Dana, "You aren't going to bully me. Fire me if you have to, but you aren't intimidating or bullying my Stockton ass." lol
Bully? I don't think if my employer said they wanted me to do some extra work in order to receive a 6 or 7 figure paycheck I would consider that bullying. When your boss is heavily rewarding you with the opportunity of a lifetime with certain expected obligations they are not bullying you by expecting you to full fill obligations.

I so wish BJ had a desire to fight cause if he had been committed he would have whoooped Diaz from one side of the cage to the other. Not sure if Condit can get it done but if he makes it past Condit GSP will absolutely maul the overrated clown.
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In saying all of this Ari, you are infact proving to us that you are a "low quality" person.
Oh how wrong you are there. As for Nick, people have gone through 10 times as much as him, and are able to conduct themselves professionally. He's so full of excuses, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if he did skip out. We'll have to wait and see
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Since when is something as simple as asking someone to sit down and break down and promote their upcoming fight classified as "bullying"?

EVERYONE does this and has done it including Nate Diaz, no problems. Why can't Nick Diaz do it? Dana should fine him and hit him where it hurts, take some of his drug money from him, then when he's only making enough to money to buy food to survive and have a roof under his head maybe he'll change.
My point is that I am sure a lot of fighters do the whole PR thing even though they don't want to do it but do it anyways because it's the professional thing to do. I also believe there are fighters who don't want to do it at all, and I"m guessing the UFC strong arms them into it. (I'm just assuming that's what happens behind closed doors.)

Would I do what he did if I were a fighter, no I wouldn't, but someone can say doing those interviews and countdown shows helps sell the fights which I'm sure it does. So does not showing up. Nick IMO is generating more interest in the fight by being so defiant and refusing to show up to said press events. Some ppl like myself will like him, while other's like you will hate him. As long as we have some kind of emotion towards the fighter, there is a bigger likelihood we'll watch the fight.



So the bottom line, they are still able to sell and hype the fight in my humble opinion.

But as a lot of you mentioned, we don't even know if this rumor is true.


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Bully? I don't think if my employer said they wanted me to do some extra work in order to receive a 6 or 7 figure paycheck I would consider that bullying. When your boss is heavily rewarding you with the opportunity of a lifetime with certain expected obligations they are not bullying you by expecting you to full fill obligations.

I so wish BJ had a desire to fight cause if he had been committed he would have whoooped Diaz from one side of the cage to the other. Not sure if Condit can get it done but if he makes it past Condit GSP will absolutely maul the overrated clown.
As I said above, I wouldn't do what Nick did, but if a fighter absolutely hates having a camera in his face, it should be his right to say no, and spend all his time training to win his fight, instead of answering questions for my viewing pleasure.

It's like James Gandolfini makes millions with movies, yet never does interviews. At first I thought he was a dick, since he made so much money and should answer PR questions for the public. But when I think about it, he doesn't have to do it. So I can respect Nicks point of view.
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What constitutes a bad person in that case? You do realize that most of the people in prison grew up in bad neighborhoods and around crime their whole lives. So now these murder's and robbers are just "victims of circumstances" instead of bad people? Give me a break.

There is a time in everyone's life where they need to become an adult. They need to accept responsibility for their actions. They decide what kind of person they are going to be. I know you don't like to admit it, but it IS a choice. Not merely how you were raised.

FACT: Most child molesters were molested as kids themselves. So these aren't bad people? Merely "Victims of circumstances?" Give me a ******* break. Call a spade a spade.

Not to mention, why isn't Nate as bad as Nick when it comes to this stuff? They had the same childhood and grew up in the same area... yet he can actually take care of his responsibilities and act like an adult (most of the time).
Why are you comparing Diaz to murderers and robbers? The dude doesn't even really break the law and he's from the same hood as many of these gangbangers.

I think a child molester that grew up being molested is actually the best example of a victim of circumstance, it's not at all condoned in my eyes but they are certainly a victim of circumstance.

And all of you just saying outrageous shit like "Nick Diaz is a horrible person", all he's doing is missing some damn filming and press conferences, haven't you guys ever taken a day off work?
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Why are you comparing Diaz to murderers and robbers? The dude doesn't even really break the law and he's from the same hood as many of these gangbangers.
Because according to your logic, robbers and murderer's are simply "victims of circumstances" too.

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I think a child molester that grew up being molested is actually the best example of a victim of circumstance, it's not at all condoned in my eyes but they are certainly a victim of circumstance.
So they shouldn't have to take responsibility for their actions?

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I don't think I've ever said he's a horrible person. I've said he's a douche bag and acts like a pubescent 15 year old kid.

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HOLY FREAKIN LULZ. Did you really just say that? I honestly don't even know where to start on this...

Amazing... simply amazing. As if being a no call no show in violation of your contract and one of the FEW things you are actually required to do for the UFC is the same as taking a vacation / sick day. Amazing...
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Throw Diaz in Jail. Hell give him the death penalty. He obviously is a terrible individual. Better yet lets send him to a cell and torture him.

If people would scrutinize themselves 1% that they do Diaz, people would be better off.

It is funny how a guy is rude and has given a few middle fingers and it is terrible. Yet all these people have done wrong things in their lives as well. Probably gave a few middle fingers in their lives.

Oh, I envy you all I guess. So many perfect people on the board.
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Throw Diaz in Jail. Hell give him the death penalty. He obviously is a terrible individual. Better yet lets send him to a cell and torture him.

If people would scrutinize themselves 1% that they do Diaz, people would be better off.

It is funny how a guy is rude and has given a few middle fingers and it is terrible. Yet all these people have done wrong things in their lives as well. Probably gave a few middle fingers in their lives.

Oh, I envy you all I guess. So many perfect people on the board.
No one is claiming to be perfect.

No one here signed up for a job where media work is half of the job, Diaz knew what he was getting into when he wanted to be an MMA Fighter, he ran from the press conferences and now he's apparently ran from the countdown crew if this story is true.

People need to realize, you may not care about the PR junk but promotion is fifty percent of combat sports, you have to hype and promote these fights, it's always been like that and always will. Diaz needs to do his job.
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