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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 01-15-2012, 10:32 PM Thread Starter
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Dan Rafeal responds to Dana White's ESPN Video.

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@danawhite FYI: ESPN does not pay the fighters, the promoters do. ESPN pays the promoters a license fee for the card.

@danawhite My only point was that Lorenzo was mixing apples and oranges.

@danawhite ESPN spends a limited $$ on #boxing programming. It's one of 1000 sports it shows. Billions on NFL, MLB, NBA, NCAA. You know that

@danawhite If ESPN was paying a license fee of millions it would be reasonable to compare.

@danawhite There is no "boxing" pays more. It would be a specific promoter pays more. In the case of MMA, that would be UFC, the promoter

@danawhite Blaming ESPN for the purses a promtoer pays on an ESPN show is like blaming Fox (or previously Spike or Versus) for UFC purses.

@danawhite I am not defending any particular story, I am saying Lorenzo's arguement was flawed. That's all.

@danawhite You cant compare ESPN to UFC. One is a television network. One is a promotional entity. ESPN akin to Fox. UFC akin to Top Rank.

@danawhite Why do people think we are twitter fight when we are just having a discussion?

@danawhite ESPN (or any network) dictating what a promoter should pay a fighter is like ABC dictating to a studio what an actor should ear
The source is twitter, for those of you who don't know who Dan Rafeal is, he's the main boxing guy at ESPN, he's always there for their weigh in coverage and preview/review segments on Sportscenter.

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Except the point is that if ESPN is really so concerned with fighter pay they would only deal with promoters who pay those boxers what they consider fair. Why are they going after a company who pays people far better money than the ones on their own network? Because the UFC isn't on ESPN and they stole away the host of one of their shows. It is a hatchet job and their figures aren't even close to being right.
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Except the point is that if ESPN is really so concerned with fighter pay they would only deal with promoters who pay those boxers what they consider fair. Why are they going after a company who pays people far better money than the ones on their own network? Because the UFC isn't on ESPN and they stole away the host of one of their shows. It is a hatchet job and their figures aren't even close to being right.
Bingo! If anything the first group ESPN should have gone after was people boxing since they cover it.
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Bingo! If anything the first group ESPN should have gone after was people boxing since they cover it.
That's exactly why they won't bring up something like it, because ESPN gains from Boxing, everyone at ESPN likes boxing and can't stand MMA like those old hacks Mike Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser, I like Boxing myself but everyone at ESPN wants Boxing to be the number one.

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Except the point is that if ESPN is really so concerned with fighter pay they would only deal with promoters who pay those boxers what they consider fair. Why are they going after a company who pays people far better money than the ones on their own network? Because the UFC isn't on ESPN and they stole away the host of one of their shows. It is a hatchet job and their figures aren't even close to being right.
Care to share any stats on that?

My guess is the mean/median boxer is making more than the average MMA fighter.

I'm curious to know the boxers that were payed a couple hundred bucks on ESPN.

We also know the top boxers made much more than the top MMA fighters, thats why I think the mean/median boxing purse is above that in MMA.

Not that I care, the lowest pay in the UFC is 6k show / 6k win. That can be done 2-3 times a year, and at that point you're either moving up the ladder (more pay), or you're probably not getting a new contract. Plus there is sponsorship money, and a lot of these guys have other things going for them on the side like a gym or training centre.
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