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post #21 of 39 (permalink) Old 01-16-2012, 10:09 PM
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Hardcore mma fans already knew everything Dana said to be true but new and casual fans need to know ESPN has went out of there way FOR YEARS to attempt to tank mma and its all about money and stems from the fear boxing will be replaced by mma.

I stopped watching ESPN because of it, boycott ESPN if you love mma.
As much as I hate the immaturity of ESPN when it comes to MMA, I love football too much. Sorry bro.
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The UFC didn't even mention that Ken Shamrock had sued Zuffa in the past. An issue that relates to his possible bias.

Also, he sued them to get another fight in the UFC. Then when he lost and was ordered to pay their legal fees, he offered to repay them by subtracting the money from a purse he'd make by fighting for them.

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The problem with ESPN's story is it completely lacked context; and it's obvious it is deliberate to make the UFC look bad.

Dave Metzer's Yahoo Sports article at least includes some context:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...hter_pay011312

The reality is the top UFC fighters make very good money; lower tier fighters not so much.

A little perspective...

UFC revenue is estimated to be $350 - 450 million per year.

NHL revenue is listed as $2.7 billion per year. Hockey earns 6 times more money than the UFC every year.

NFL?

10 years of current UFC revenue is $4.5 billion. The NFL makes more than double that in 1 year.

GSP is probably the UFC's highest paid fighter. He makes $4-5 million per fight; ~ $3-4 million is from the UFC excluding sponsorships. 2-3 fights per year is $6-12M.

The top NHL player earns $12M and the top NFL player earns $30M per year. So as a % of overall revenue GSP is doing better than the major sports.

A handful of boxers do better. Why? Simple...

Floyd Mayweather vs. Victor Ortiz grossed $78 million just on pay-per-view revenue.

If UFC 141 did 800,000 buys gross revenue would be ~ $36 million and the UFC only gets about half so $18 million. Heck...give 'em $25 million.

If you include gate revenue the discrepancy gets even larger.

The Mayweather-Ortiz gate was $9 million; Big UFC gates are in the $4-5 million range.

So $87 million to $30 million...that's why top boxers get paid more.

Lower and mid-tier UFC fighters actually do a bit better than boxing counterparts. No question though both don't make a lot.

Of course who sells more ppv's? GSP or Mike Pierce? 75 percent of UFC revenue is from ppv buys. The fighters bringing in the $$$ earn the $$$.
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I have a question.

Why does ESPN hate the UFC and why do they have an Axe to grind with them? Did something happen to percipiate this?

Because man, with how fast the UFC is growing, you would think ESPN would be bending over backwards to help the uFC and set up a regular "Sunday Night Fights" event or something.

I just don't understand the friction between the two organizations. Together, they could make many millions, but fighting against each other does nothing for either.
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Its weird how interesting Lorenzo is as a person. He has something about it that i can listen to all day when talking about business. Dana White has this to but its completely different. Hard to explain.


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I have a question.

Why does ESPN hate the UFC and why do they have an Axe to grind with them? Did something happen to percipiate this?

Because man, with how fast the UFC is growing, you would think ESPN would be bending over backwards to help the uFC and set up a regular "Sunday Night Fights" event or something.

I just don't understand the friction between the two organizations. Together, they could make many millions, but fighting against each other does nothing for either.
I think it all started when ESPN and the UFC were in talks to get a network deal going. I think ESPN basically insulted the UFC with their demands and Dana White backed off. But even before that they had interviews and what not where their reporters,hosts,interviewers would get a UFC brand name personal and basically talk down about the sport and have the person defend the UFC. So its been alot of things throughout the years. The UFC signing with FOX certainly does not help the situation.


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I have a question.

Why does ESPN hate the UFC and why do they have an Axe to grind with them? Did something happen to percipiate this?

Because man, with how fast the UFC is growing, you would think ESPN would be bending over backwards to help the uFC and set up a regular "Sunday Night Fights" event or something.

I just don't understand the friction between the two organizations. Together, they could make many millions, but fighting against each other does nothing for either.
All you need to do is watch First Take, Around The Horn, Pardon The Interruption or try to find where they had Shogun's KO of Forrest Griffin on the top ten plays and you'll see what the problem is between ESPN and MMA.

ESPN absolutely hates MMA, they hate it, they can't stand the fact it's right up there with Boxing, Colin Cowherd and Jonathon Coachman are the only guys at ESPN that I know openly endorse MMA.

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All you need to do is watch First Take, Around The Horn, Pardon The Interruption or try to find where they had Shogun's KO of Forrest Griffin on the top ten plays and you'll see what the problem is between ESPN and MMA.

ESPN absolutely hates MMA, they hate it, they can't stand the fact it's right up there with Boxing, Colin Cowherd and Jonathon Coachman are the only guys at ESPN that I know openly endorse MMA.
Pretty much in a nut shell.

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Its weird how interesting Lorenzo is as a person. He has something about it that i can listen to all day when talking about business. Dana White has this to but its completely different. Hard to explain.




I think it all started when ESPN and the UFC were in talks to get a network deal going. I think ESPN basically insulted the UFC with their demands and Dana White backed off. But even before that they had interviews and what not where their reporters,hosts,interviewers would get a UFC brand name personal and basically talk down about the sport and have the person defend the UFC. So its been alot of things throughout the years. The UFC signing with FOX certainly does not help the situation.
That and they employ mostly old people who are boxing protectionists and have done nothing but trash the sport without watching it for years. They will "discuss" it on shows like around the horn with 4 people who haven't seen a show in 10 years/never and act as though their opinions are valid and have any journalistic integrity. I remember Bob Ryan ripping the sport like crazy for how violent and evil it was and then going to the first Boston event and saying it wasn't that violent at all and he thought it was boring.

ESPN is crooked they pretend to be journalists but then blackball and attack sports that don't sign TV deals with them. They ****ed over the NHL for the same reason when they signed a deal with versus.
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I thought you could go to the ufc's website use a "slingbox" to your TV and view a it in HD?
Nope unfortunately not. I watch whatever prelims I can that way, but the main cards not available on ufc.com or ufc.tv. Luckily ESPN UK only costs about €10 a month
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Nope unfortunately not. I watch whatever prelims I can that way, but the main cards not available on ufc.com or ufc.tv. Luckily ESPN UK only costs about €10 a month
Could you use a proxy?

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