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View Poll Results: Who wins the Fuel TV prelim fights?

Jorge 'El Conquistador' Rivera VS 2 50.00%
Eric 'Red' Schafer 1 25.00%
Habib 'The Eagle' Nurmagomedov VS 1 25.00%
Kamal 'The Prince of Persia' Shalorus 2 50.00%
Charlie 'The Spaniard' Brenneman VS 3 75.00%
Daniel 'Ninja' Roberts 0 0%
Fabricio 'Marango' Camoes VS 4 100.00%
Tommy Hayden 0 0%
Daniel 'The Pit' Pineda VS 2 50.00%
Pat 'Thrilling' Schilling 1 25.00%
Nick 'The Ninja of Love' Denis VS 3 75.00%
Joseph Sandoval 0 0%
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Jorge Rivera vs. Eric Schafer
Khabib Nurmagomedov vs. Kamal Shalorus
Charlie Brenneman vs. Daniel Roberts
Fabricio Camoes vs. Tommy Hayden
Daniel Pineda vs. Pat Schilling
Nick Denis vs. Joseph Sandoval
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Article full of previews and predictions about the undercard tomorrow night...

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Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is heading down to "Music City" this Friday night (Jan. 20, 2012) for its first-ever free card on FX, and the mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion is definitely ready to rock.

Lighting up the Bridgestone Arena in Nashville, Tenn., are lightweight contenders Jim Miller and Melvin Guillard, headlining the card as they attempt to regain the momentum recently stripped from them by Ben Henderson and Joe Lauzon, respectively.

In addition, MMA pioneer Duane Ludwig will try to pick up his first three-fight win streak in more than five years as he faces the dangerous Josh Neer.

And that's just the main card. Once again, the UFC will show the "Prelims" on the big(ger) screen, this time on FUEL TV.

Join us after the jump for the first part of our breakdown of the UFC on FX 1 "Prelims:"

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145 lbs.: Daniel Pineda vs. Pat Schilling

A veteran of both Bellator and Legacy Fighting Championships, Daniel Pineda (15-7) has a rather interesting statistic associated with those 15 wins of his: They’re all stoppages, with six knockouts and nine submissions, including a kneebar victory over The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) stand out Johnny Bedford. "The Pit" enters the Octagon having won seven of his last eight, including a wicked spinning backfist knockout in his most recent endeavor. The Texas-based finishing machine will look to take the next big step of his career at the age of 26 with a win over the unbeaten Schilling.

With an average fight time of almost exactly two minutes, Pat Schilling (5-0) has quickly established himself as a force to be reckoned with in his young career. After debuting in Jan. 2010, "Thrilling" went on to fight three more times that year, and after just one bout in 2011, is itching for a chance to prove himself in the cage once again, this time on the biggest stage there is and against another hungry up-and-comer.

Finding recent footage of these two has proven a fruitless endeavor. And I don’t trust the two- and three-year-old fights. Therefore, this is probably going to devolve into scouring their records for what I need to know.

What really strikes me (aside from the obvious experience gap) is the difference in competition level. As of today, only one of Schilling’s five opponents has a winning record (4-3) and his most recent victim was winless (0-6) going in, including a submission loss to Jason Reinhardt. Pineda, on the other hand, has fought and beaten solid foes, including World Extreme Cagefighting (WEC) veteran Frank Gomez and the aforementioned Bedford.

In addition, four of Pineda’s losses came in sequence two years ago in an awful patch. He has not lost in his last five. While Pineda has historically struggled when trying to take the next step, but he’s proven himself far more than his opponent has, and that experience will carry the day for him.

Prediction: Pineda via first-round technical knockout

135 lbs.: Nick Denis vs. Joseph Sandoval

Some people call him Maurice.

When it comes to absurd knockout rates below 155 pounds, they don’t come much crazier than Nick Denis (10-2), who has nine of them to his credit, with all but one coming inside two rounds. After getting wiped out by the monster that is Marlon Sandro for the first loss of his career and being guillotined by Japanese veteran Yuji Hoshino two fights later, "The Ninja of Love" roared back with a knockout of Bellator veteran Nick Mamalis, which -- were it not for Yusup Saadulaev turning Hideo Tokoro’s brains into scrambled eggs on New Year’s Eve -- would probably be the slam of the year.

He’ll be gunning for another hellacious knockout for the FUEL TV audience.

Joseph Sandoval (6-1), then-unbeaten, debuted against Walel Watson in the UFC’s final show on Versus. The Texas-based banger, unfortunately, found himself unable to overcome a height and reach disadvantage that bordered on unfair, suffering a technical knockout loss after eating a head kick. He can go a long way toward putting that loss behind him by quelling the rise of the dangerous Denis.

Denis is undoubtedly still a work-in-progress. His takedown defense needs work, and considering how dangerous he is on the feet, he’s going to need to improve it quickly, because a good chunk of the division isn’t going to want any part of him standing.

It’ll be enough on Friday, though.

Sandoval has good striking and decent takedown defense, but against someone with the power of Denis, it’s not going to be enough. This is a massive step up in competition for him, while the same can’t be said for the more experienced Denis. Expect some nice striking exchanges early before something big from the Canadian lands flush and brings some glory back to the beleaguered Tristar.

Prediction: Denis via first-round knockout

155 lbs.: Fabrício Camoes vs. Tom Hayden

A 14-year veteran of the sport -- who had the misfortune of facing Anderson Silva in only his second MMA bout -- Fabricio Camoes (13-6-1) got his first crack at UFC glory in 2009, going 0-1-1 with a loss and draw to Kurt Pellegrino and Caol Uno, respectively. After being cut by the promotion, "Morango" went right back to work, knocking out UFC veteran Steve Lopez in just 23 seconds with a head kick and upsetting fellow exile Efrain Escudero by decision. Now 9-1-1 in his last 11 bouts, Camoes can get right back in Zuffa's good graces with a win over late replacement Hayden.

Replacing Swedish-Iranian prospect Reza Madadi on less than a week’s notice, the Jorge Gurgel-trained Tom Hayden (8-0) has only gone out of the second round once in eight bouts, owning a submission win over TUF veteran Dustin Neace. A grappling specialist, five of his victories have come via submission. Having fought just twice in the past two years, Hayden has an enormous opportunity in front of him to, at the age of 25, make an impression in the vicious UFC lightweight division.

As was the annoying case in the Pineda-Schilling fight, footage of Hayden appears nonexistent, so record analysis must be utilized. To be honest, what I’m seeing doesn’t speak well of his chances. Fabricio’s record is quite deceiving -- he’s only lost once since 2006, and speaking of, he has more than three times the experience of Hayden, chronologically speaking. Camoes has faced the better opposition by far and has had a full training camp, both major advantages over Hayden.

There’s always a chance that Hayden could surprise everyone and prove himself major-league material, but I don’t see it.

Prediction: Camoes by decision

Stop by tomorrow for a look at the three remaining fights on the UFC on FX 1 under card, featuring the likes of Charlie Brenneman and Kamal Shalorus. among others.

See you then!

"Music City," here we come.

Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is heading to "The Athens of the South" this Friday night (Jan. 20, 2012) for its first-ever free card on FX, and the mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion is definitely ready to rock.

Lighting up the Bridgestone Arena in Nashville, Tenn., are lightweight contenders Jim Miller and Melvin Guillard, headlining the card as they attempt to regain the momentum recently stripped from them by Ben Henderson and Joe Lauzon, respectively.

In addition, MMA pioneer Duane Ludwig will try to pick up his first three-fight win streak in more than five years as he faces the dangerous Josh Neer.

And that's just the main card. Once again, the UFC will show the "Prelims" on the big(ger) screen, this time on FUEL TV.

Join us after the jump for the second part of our breakdown (see part one here) of the UFC on FX 1 "Prelims:"

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185 lbs.: Jorge "El Conquistador" Rivera (19-9) vs. Eric "Red" Schafer (12-6-2)

After obliterating veteran Nate Quarry in two rounds, Rivera looked to be on somewhat of a late-career resurgence, having won three straight and earning a place in the UFC 127 co-main event against Michael Bisping. Despite needling his British foe relentlessly in the build-up to the fight, Rivera found himself unable to overcome the striking and wrestling of Bisping, especially after eating an illegal knee in the first round. His attempted rebound against Constantinos Philippou failed as well, as he found himself on the wrong end of a split decision. Nearing the end of his career and sitting on two straight losses, Rivera absolutely needs a win on Friday.

After being cut from the UFC for the second time on account of consecutive losses to Ryan Bader and Jason Brilz, Schafer got a third shot at the big time against Aaron Simpson at UFC 136. Unfortunately for the submissions specialist, Simpson's power was simply too much for him, and he found himself battered relentlessly across the cage all night. Now 1-3 in his last four, his continued employment likely rests on a win over Rivera.

Despite his experience, Rivera remains a brawler, for better or worse. His wrestling isn't great, his grappling isn't great, and his striking isn't very technical. At this point in his career, all he really has going for him is power.

Luckily for him, against Schafer, that might be enough.

Schafer is an excellent submissions player, but once he felt the power of Simpson, he seemed to shut down and just try to survive the ordeal. Despite this, he was still on the verge of being knocked out. If he gets Rivera down early, which he is definitely capable of, he can certainly submit him, but I just get the sense that Rivera's going to pop him before that happens, and even if that doesn't finish him, it will cow "Red" and lead to his eventual downfall.

This old dog still has some bite in him.

Prediction: Rivera via technical knockout

170 lbs.: Charlie "The Spaniard" Brenneman (14-3) vs. Daniel "Ninja" Roberts (12-3)

Filling in for an improperly-manly Nate Marquardt on late notice against Rick Story back at UFC Live 4, Brenneman was considered little more than cannon fodder for the rising wrestler, who was coming off an impressive upset of Thiago Alves. Three rounds of wrestling dominance later, however, and the UFC had a new underdog story to market. Unfortunately for Brenneman, Anthony "Rumble" Johnson was not entertained by this "Spaniard" and, after shrugging off his takedown attempts with ease, nuked the afroed wrestler with a head kick. Now 2-2 in his last four, with two stoppage losses, Brenneman will need a dominant performance to regain his place in the welterweight upper echelon.

After getting murked by John Howard in his UFC debut, Cesar Gracie-trained Daniel Robert hiked up his britches and established himself as one of the more dangerous grapplers at 170, submitting Mike Guymon with a beautiful anaconda choke at UFC 121 and nearly tearing Greg Soto's arm off four numbered events later. He soon suffered more setbacks, however, as he was soundly outwrestled and outstruck by the rising Claude Patrick and TUF veteran Rich Attonito in sequential efforts. 3-3 in the UFC and two losses in the hole, Roberts could very well be fighting for his job come Friday.

Brenneman has historically struggled with one specific kind of fighter: The kind that hits really, really hard. He's fought three people that could be considered power-punchers (John Howard, Johny Hendricks, and the aforementioned Rumble) and all three came away victorious.

Daniel Roberts is not a power-puncher. In fact, he has no knockouts on his record.

Roberts has good submissions, but he seemed entirely incapable of bringing them to bear against Patrick or Attonito. Against someone with the wrestling prowess of Brenneman, which allowed him to grapple on even terms with the highly-decorated Hendricks before catching a case sudden-onset fist, I don't see him doing much better.

I'll be honest with you all; this is probably going to be boring as sin. While I'm hoping for a crazy back-and-forth grapplefest, I know better. Brenneman by wrestlegrind.

Prediction: Brenneman via unanimous decision

155 lbs.: Khabib Nurmagomedov (16-0) vs. Kamal "Prince of Persia" Shalorus (7-1-2)

A three-time Combat Sambo who has been called Russian MMA's best-kept secret, the 23-year-old Nurmagomedov has been terrorizing his home country under the M-1 and ProFC banners. While he only fought twice in 2010, he made up for it with an astounding seven bouts in the last year, only one reaching the second round. Having recently joined the Miller Brothers and fellow prospect Adlan Amagov at AMA Fight Club, Nurmagomedov will look to carve out a place for himself in the vicious UFC lightweight division.

WEC veteran Kamal Shalorus, one of the most decorated wrestlers in the division, hit the first major setback of his career at UFC 128, when Jim Miller, after controlling the majority of their bout, cracked the Iranian's notoriously-concrete jaw for the first time with a huge knee and finished him with punches. This marked Shalorus's only professional loss, although there are those who would argue that his split draw with Jamie Varner should probably have qualified for that title. After ten months out of the game, Shalorus can put himself right back in the mix by quelling the rise of the Russian upstart.

Shalorus is an incredibly frustrating fighter to watch. He has decent pop in his hands, but he wastes it by wildly flailing away like a beefier version of Leonard Garcia. Further, he has some of the most powerful takedowns in the game, but barely uses them and fails to set them up when he does.

Nurmagomedov may not have been fighting elite competition, but his sambo is excellent; he's got good takedowns, solid ground work, and clean striking technique. In addition, he's over ten years younger than Shalorus and has significantly more fights.

That said, I firmly believe that Shalorus has the tools to wipe the floor with Nurmagomedov at this point in the latter's career. In fact, he probably has the tools to beat a large portion of the lightweight division. The problem is that he won't use them; he doesn't use his wrestling nearly enough and, from what I can tell, flat-out refuses to improve his punching technique to the point where he can actually bring his not-insignificant power to bear. Shalorus is going to sit back and brawl, possibly falling victim to Khabib's lightning-quick double leg or to his cleaner technique. In either case, he's going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory once again by playing a game he won't win and doesn't even have to play.

Prediction: Nurmagomedov via unanimous decision

That's a wrap.
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Hmm, I was looking through this Nick Dennis's record. He has a win via KO (suplex & chokeslam)!!!

I found it

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Does anybody know about this Habib Nurmagomedov. Looking through his fights and I don't really recognize anybody he has beat but he is 16-0 with 6 KO's, 6 Submissions, and 4 Decisions. Plus he was a Combat Sambo Russian National Champ, and Combat Sambo World Champ anybody watched this guy and know anything about him.
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I suspect, looking at his opponents records that he looks a bit like this guy....



I hope im wrong though and he turns out to have the finesse and skill set of Rob Emerson.
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Will there be any prelims streamed on FB tonight?
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Interested to see Pineda fight, I actually think the under card is better than the main card.
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The undercard is awful. I just want to see the ME.

Also, lol at a broadcast blunder within 5 minutes of the show....FAIL.
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Got Denis winning this one. Either voilently in the first round, or a comfortable decision.
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