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Old 02-06-2012, 04:45 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Agreed, well put.

When I go to watch an amateur Mauy Thai fight and the “smoker” fights are on I know these guys are just going to stand and swing at each other, the mid-level MT guys fire off shots, then MOVE out of range to defend and no one criticizes them.

I thought the fight was plenty entertaining, if you want to fault Carlos for not playing into Nick’s strength and thus making it a “boring fight” then you need to place equal blame on Nick for not being able to stop Carlos. There are plenty of skills and techniques that would have forced Carlos to stop his constant movement/circling and Nick apparently had none of them.

The more I train and the more fights I watch the more I appreciate a fighter using their unique skill set to defeat another fighter and their skill set.
You’re not always going to get a highlight reel in this evolving sport.

If you want to watch people get f-ed up watch some low level organizations with poorly skilled fighter.
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:49 PM   #22 (permalink)
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If you want to watch people get f-ed up watch some low level organizations with poorly skilled fighter.
Or Anderson Silva and JBJ at the highest level
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:55 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I agree with everything however this is the down side of the ufc. The ufc is huge and their trying to get bigger and bigger. The thing is with all the new fans and the potential fans no one wants to see a chess match plain and simple.

The UFC is trying to entertain plain and simple. I do jujitsu, i appreciate all the non entertaining parts of mma. However it gets boring when every fight on the card is the same with guys who don't put on a show or is reluctant to fight.
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:04 PM   #24 (permalink)
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The only complaint I have about the Condit Diaz fight was Diaz's (all too predictable) reaction during the post fight interview. If Diaz had spent less time mouthing off during the fight, if he had demonstrated his supposed "elite" level boxing, or attempted to grapple and take the fight to the ground he may have had better luck... But the fact is, he seemed content to walk after Condit, shouting abuse.

Sure, the fight wasn't the most exciting I've ever seen - but anyone with any knowledge of MMA could see that Diaz wasn't winning all those rounds.

It seems to me that his biggest issue should be with his corner - I can understand Diaz himself maybe not realizing he wasn't doing enough - but his corner should have been telling him (too quote the late great Angelo Dundee) "You're blowing it son, your blowing it...." Perhaps if Diaz had been given better advise between the rounds, he wouldn't have behaved like such a spoilt punk immediately afterwards.
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:10 PM   #25 (permalink)
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The only complaint I have about the Condit Diaz fight was Diaz's (all too predictable) reaction during the post fight interview. If Diaz had spent less time mouthing off during the fight, if he had demonstrated his supposed "elite" level boxing, or attempted to grapple and take the fight to the ground he may have had better luck... But the fact is, he seemed content to walk after Condit, shouting abuse.

Sure, the fight wasn't the most exciting I've ever seen - but anyone with any knowledge of MMA could see that Diaz wasn't winning all those rounds.

It seems to me that his biggest issue should be with his corner - I can understand Diaz himself maybe not realizing he wasn't doing enough - but his corner should have been telling him (too quote the late great Angelo Dundee) "You're blowing it son, your blowing it...." Perhaps if Diaz had been given better advise between the rounds, he wouldn't have behaved like such a spoilt punk immediately afterwards.
That is nick Diaz though, reason y people love him or hate him. Me personal, i love him he brings entertainment to the ufc. He is the best pure trash talker in mma because at the end of the day you know he's really that ****ed up.

You can't flaw diaz for his mouth he has been doing the same shit for years. He does it to everyone win or lose. Nick Diaz sold the GSP fight even though we all know deep down its gonna be a lopsided beat down of gsp. But it will be entertaining watch gsp react to diaz'z trash talking/antics.

That i BJ penn elite of the elite.
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:30 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I find very few of the fights in MMA/ UFC boring. I actually prefer the tactical fights. I find myself studying the fight, trying to figure what each fighter's strategy is. As the fight moves on through a couple of rounds and I think I got it figured, I anxiously watch seeing which fighter will impose his will as he planned and win the fight. To me, in my humble opinion, that is what the fight game is all about. If I want to watch two guys going in and beating eachother in the face till one drops or gives up I can just google "street fight" or something like that.
The future of MMA/ UFC is the smart, tactical fighter. More than any other fighter, GSP is the one who really is bringin that to the MMA sport. He will go into the UFC hall of fame and always be remembered as one of the sports best fighters because he was smart, strategic and tactical.
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Yea, sure, the point is to win. But when you talk a big game about knocking him out, over and over again. The people expect anything but running from him all night throwing leg kicks. That aint knocking anyone out!
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:40 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Or Anderson Silva and JBJ at the highest level
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Anderson has had some of the weakest most boring 10K running events in the sport, of course when he wants to he makes high level fighters above his weight class look like cans but Andy and JBJ are freaks of nature, not many of these men walking the planet.

Outside of the higher weight classes I actually expect the type of fight we saw with Condit vs. Diaz.

I think people are just put off because this is the first time someone make Nick look human in the striking game in a long time.
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