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post #11 of 40 (permalink) Old 02-15-2012, 09:06 AM
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If he refuses to take another fight until gsp is ready, why isnt he getting the same flack rashad got? If anything what hes doing is worse.

Like a previous poster alluded to the whole point of the interim belt is for the division to keep on going while the champ is sidelined.Condit is basically holding it ransom until he sees gsp.Is that not more egregious than what rashad did who lets face it only hurt himself not fans or the division.

Just imagine if ellenberger has a good showing tonight or hendricks beats kos and we are cheated out of condit v ellenberger 2/condit v hendricks.Because carlos and greg are scared they will hurt their brand.Its amazing how this is all being glossed over

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Isn't the whole idea of an interim belt not to stall a whole division? Can't really blame Carlos though, there's no bigger fight than GSP right now.




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This is all politics. Part of it is the issue of so many fans on and off the boards are into the Diaz side of it and whether it happened this way or that way, right now the UFC is doing PR. There is no guarantee Nick is getting any suspension time at all either. Carlos will fight who the f#ck they tell him to fight. If Dana and the goons decide he is fighting Nick he is fighting Nick the same way they decided before. If the plans change and they say hes fighting someone else than hes fighting someone else. Hes going to do what hes told. Thats why there are no parallels between this and Rashad because Rashad didnt do what he was told and it hurt him. Those days are over.

The funny thing is that if they wait until late this year and neither he nor GSP has fought in that year or more, what kind of snooze fest can we expect from these two careful b!tches.
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I didn't see any part where Condit said he was waiting for GSP, just people assuming that the next fight the UFC will offer him is against GSP. I still believe that Condit has never turned down a fight, and if they asked him to fight the winner of Jake vs Diego he would take it. It may be the UFC is finally tired of getting bit in the ass for saying "The winner of this fight will get a title shot" and then the fight sucks.

My feeling is that based on when GSP gives his firm 'I will be ready to fight by X' either the UFC will wait for him, or if we are looking at November/December that Condit will fight one of the following 4 men based on the upcoming 2 fights:

Sanchez
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And it will all be based on who looks the most amazing in their win.
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Two points I wanted to make...

1) It looks like Condit did in fact want the rematch with Diaz, so now that's all cleared up I have to give him props for that.

2) If you hold the interim title, you should not be sidelined 'waiting' for the true champ to return. The only time I see that being ok is if the timeline is short and or no challengers that make sense.

That being said, Ellenberger/Sanchez or Koscheck/
Hendricks should get a crack at Condit.

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It all depends on when GSP is actually going to be ready. If hes going to be ready to fight this summer or in the fall, then yes it makes sense. If he wont be ready until really late 2012 or into 2013, then its bogus and Condit will have to fight. Whats the point of having two champs sitting there doing nothing? Let the interim champ actually be the acting champion instead of a waiting no 1 contender. He should have to defend his belt, just like any healthy champ. Gives more value to the belt that way.

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If there was no back-story here, I would be all over Carlos for allegedly choosing to wait. But there is.
Prior to the Diaz fight, we all recall how he was bounced around like a ping pong ball, and despite how frustrated he likely was because of it, he did his job, and took what Dana gave him after it all played out.

IMO, he's within his rights to say he's going to wait for the real champ.

And in reality, I think it's entirely likely that money will talk; if the right fight/offer comes along, he'll sign on to fight before Georgie comes back.

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How does Condit deserve any flack?
Because Condit told everyone before the Diaz fight that if he won he wouldn't sit around and wait for GSP.

Just more hot air from Condit.

He just wanted everyone to say "oh look at Condit, he is a real fighter, look at him". He just wanted people to applaud him. He never truly meant that.

That is why he deserves flack.

The WW division has been the suckiest division in MMA. Not because GSP dominates everyone, but because their are few interesting things in the division. We all though the Diaz fight would be awesome, it wasn't. What is even exciting in the division? Most exciting thing is Erick Silva doing work.
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Because Condit told everyone before the Diaz fight that if he won he wouldn't sit around and wait for GSP.

Just more hot air from Condit.

He just wanted everyone to say "oh look at Condit, he is a real fighter, look at him". He just wanted people to applaud him. He never truly meant that.

That is why he deserves flack.

The WW division has been the suckiest division in MMA. Not because GSP dominates everyone, but because their are few interesting things in the division. We all though the Diaz fight would be awesome, it wasn't. What is even exciting in the division? Most exciting thing is Erick Silva doing work.
Actually Condit never said he was going to wait, DW did:

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"We don't know when Georges is coming back yet," White said. "But Carlos isn't going to fight another fight."
Per Condit's manager:

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"Right now, Carlos is just sitting back and waiting for a call from the UFC," Kawa said. "With Nick out, the title fight with Georges seems to make the most sense, and Carlos is excited for a chance to unify the titles. But we'll just wait to see what the UFC has planned and go from there.

"Carlos has always been willing to fight anybody the UFC asks him to face, and that's certainly not changing now."
So it appears Condit does not deserve the flack, DW and the UFC do if anyone.

I still think that they are just waiting for the upcoming fights and GSP's next medical report to determine what to do. Foot in mouth syndrome has bitten them pretty hard as of late.
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I'm not sure what is going through anyone's head who thinks Condit deserves any kind of flack.

Condit has worked his butt off, and he's put his time in the trenches, waded through a whole circus about 'now you get a shot, now you don't, wait...now you do..', and put up with a truckload of BS from Diaz and his camp, before and after the fight.

He has 100% earned his shot at GSP. He's been the company guy for the UFC, he's done what he was asked, if he wants to wait for GSP now and take his shot at the title, he damn well deserves it.

He would have been just as justified to tell Diaz to stick it somewhere painful for the rematch, but he was willing to do that. I don't normally like holding up a division, but Condit has nothing to prove, Ellenberger, Sanchez and anyone else can go hang, Condit deserves the next shot at GSP, let him have it.
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