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post #41 of 205 (permalink) Old 03-17-2012, 06:54 AM
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Man, too bad for cruickshank, he got caught, I hope they bring him back later on the show, he was outrageously dominating up to the point Vic got a lucky break.

nonetheless, it's part of the game and it's part of what makes it great
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I'd not even call it a lucky break. It was a well placed knee to an opponent shooting in. It landed, and the kid deserved the win. I think it obvious who the better fighter is all around, but if you pick your moment and you strike, then all the power to you.

Really looking forward to next week's fight. I think Lawrence might be a total beast, but I'm not going to sleep on Marcello, who also seems legit. Should be an awesome fight.
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Surprised this board is so dead, think its a pretty good TUF season so far.

Cruz really messed with Faber and his team last night, giving them the opportunity to pick a fighter to go against his best fighter. You can tell Faber really didn't know how to approach it, being caught off guard. He didn't want to pick anyone since he didn't know if the fighters were ready for that fight, but when he asked the fighters if anyone wanted to step up, I'm surprised no one stepped up on the opportunity.

This is a contest, and if you don't think you can beat their best guy, then you already lost the show. Everyone was just waiting for someone else to step up, and it showed. People can say whatever excuses they want, but they are there to win it, and I was disappointed by the lack of desire to prove themselves. Everyone wants an easy road to the finals. But if you end up beating their best guy, then everyone else might be less eager to face you, giving you a huge advantage in the psyche department.

Great fight, and great all around episode.
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Surprised this board is so dead, think its a pretty good TUF season so far.

Cruz really messed with Faber and his team last night, giving them the opportunity to pick a fighter to go against his best fighter. You can tell Faber really didn't know how to approach it, being caught off guard. He didn't want to pick anyone since he didn't know if the fighters were ready for that fight, but when he asked the fighters if anyone wanted to step up, I'm surprised no one stepped up on the opportunity.

This is a contest, and if you don't think you can beat their best guy, then you already lost the show. Everyone was just waiting for someone else to step up, and it showed. People can say whatever excuses they want, but they are there to win it, and I was disappointed by the lack of desire to prove themselves. Everyone wants an easy road to the finals. But if you end up beating their best guy, then everyone else might be less eager to face you, giving you a huge advantage in the psyche department.

Great fight, and great all around episode.
That was a great move by Cruz.
Even better when all the fighters basically pussed out,
that right there had all of then cornered in a mind trap.
That's gotta have some mental impact in Faber's team,
it's not often a entire team is afraid of one guy.

I'm surprised Dana allowed it, it kind of is a similar
situation as to that when Penn just asked the fighters who wanted to be part of his team in TUF Penn vs Pulver.

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I'd not even call it a lucky break. It was a well placed knee to an opponent shooting in. It landed, and the kid deserved the win. I think it obvious who the better fighter is all around, but if you pick your moment and you strike, then all the power to you.

Really looking forward to next week's fight. I think Lawrence might be a total beast, but I'm not going to sleep on Marcello, who also seems legit. Should be an awesome fight.
I thought Vick admitted that he was throwing a high kick after his combination because that's what his corner told him to do? Then Daron went for a take down as he did that and it looked like a knee being thrown. I could be taking his words out of context, but he didn't intend on throwing that knee.

Either way, it was Daron's fault for miscalculating his take down. Vick is a tall lanky guy with a lot of range, he should expect him to have a good chance of countering his take downs.

I can't believe the guy congratulated Daron in his post fight interview after he got knocked out.

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I thought Vick admitted that he was throwing a high kick after his combination because that's what his corner told him to do? Then Daron went for a take down as he did that and it looked like a knee being thrown. I could be taking his words out of context, but he didn't intend on throwing that knee.

Either way, it was Daron's fault for miscalculating his take down. Vick is a tall lanky guy with a lot of range, he should expect him to have a good chance of countering his take downs.

I can't believe the guy congratulated Daron in his post fight interview after he got knocked out.
Why not?

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That was a great move by Cruz.
Even better when all the fighters basically pussed out,
that right there had all of then cornered in a mind trap.
That's gotta have some mental impact in Faber's team,
it's not often a entire team is afraid of one guy.

I'm surprised Dana allowed it, it kind of is a similar
situation as to that when Penn just asked the fighters who wanted to be part of his team in TUF Penn vs Pulver.
No one pussed out. They're just not stupid enough to volunteer for a fight one week after they've had one. I'm sure they also want to learn as much as they can before they have their next fight.

Only an idiot would've volunteered.
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It's funny because Lawrence isn't anywhere near their best guy.

In fact, Marcelo should make quick work of him. Lawrence is just some kid with a bit athletic ability and flexibility...nothing special. Certainly not 4th degree black belt special.


I love Cruz's team though, what a bunch of characters. Phil Davis, Lloyd "HOOOOOO!" Irvin, and crazy ass Mike Easton in the background.

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I think Vick along with a lot of the guys on the show have great skills and a tremendous upside to them. I actually wasn't surprised to see him get the big win. Vick's still young and seems to be just establishing his MMA skills the kids got a tone of potential. I could even see him winning the whole darn thing.
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I kind of agree with Mr. Roflcopter over here. I looked up Lawrence's record and I was kind of surprised. I missed his record on the show, but I figured it must have been impressive for the hype he's been getting. He's undefeated, but his record is only 3-0 with one submission and 2 decision wins. The kid has a lack of experience and people are kind of putting this hype around him over ONE round where he looked great. Many fighters in the past have looked phenomenal for ONE round. I don't need to mention any names, but these are guys who have looked unstoppable in a round, and then went on to be a bust. Don't get me wrong, the hype could potentially be real, but it's way too early to be convinced.

I think we all can agree that Marcello is probably light years ahead in BJJ. If he puts the much less experienced Lawrence on his back, he will undoubtedly be in some trouble. I think that Marcello's experience and BJJ should help him a lot in this fight.

I'm guessing Cruz picked this fight because he feels that Lawrence is well rounded while Marcello may be one dimensional. It's a risky strategy, but it is smart in a way. He's trying to take out one of Faber's best guys early with a more well rounded guy that may be able to keep the fight standing. I expect him to train take down defense a lot for this fight.

It bothers me a little seeing Cruz ask Faber who he wanted Lawrence to fight, like he had so much faith in a guy with only 3 professional fights and having two go the distance. Then you see Lawrence with a smile, this kid knows he's the favorite to win in a lot of peoples eyes. If that goes to his head and he thinks these guys are actually afraid of him, that could be his down fall in the competition. I don't think these guys are afraid of him, they're professional fighters. I'd like to think they wouldn't be afraid of doing their job. They probably just don't want to fight yet, and want to absorb more knowledge and training before stepping into the octagon. It also wouldn't hurt to have the easiest road to the finals. This competition isn't about looking like a hero or a total bad ass, it's about winning, getting that prize, and that UFC contract.

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